Session January 2779
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Presiding Magistrate
D. Aurelius Ingeniarius, Consul
The session was chaired by D. Aurelius Ingeniarius. The 'Call to Convene' was announced on a.d. VI Id. Ian. ‡.
Consular Auspices
The auspices were taken by D. Aurelius Ingeniarius, consul. They were taken in a small garden, just 1.8km from the outer walls of the original foundations of the Augusta Taurinorum. Under guidance from Cn. Corenlius Lentulus, pontifex, sacrifices and prayers were made to Iuppiter Optimus Maximus. The auspices were found to be favorable.
Consular Opening and Closing Ceremony
An opening ceremony of rites and sacrifice was made on the day of opening by consul, D. Aurelius Ingeniarius. The dedication day of Concordia Augusta was acknowledged. The closing ceremony rites were performed by consul, D. Aurelius Ingeniarius, on the afternoon of closing the session.
Quorum
The senate has 23 voting members registered. In accordance with article XI.E. of the Senatus consultum de ratione senatus MMDCCLXV, no senator was deemed absent as no senator lodged their pending absence on this forum. As per article I, 2/3 of registered members constitutes a quorum; this is 16 members. With 23 of 23 members accounted for, quorum was achieved. It was noted that senator M. Octavius Corvus subscribed late to the Curia Cornelia. Senator Ap. Curius Rullus has not yet subscribed to the Curia at this time. The 23 voting members are:
- D. Aurelius Ingeniarius, consul, presiding magistrate, senator praetorius
- M. Caecilius Metellus Tocaiensis, consul, senator aedilicius
- L. Calpurnius Bestia, praetor
- D. Claudius Aquilinus, praetor
- M. Aurelius Cotta Iovius, censor, senator consularis
- C. Petronius Stephanus Turpilianus, censor, senator consularis
- Fl. Vedius Germanicus, princeps senatus, senator censorius
- Sex. Lucilius Tutor, senator censorius
- Q. Arrius Nauta, decemvir stlitibus iudicandis, senator censorius
- T. Domitius Draco, senator consularis
- C. Cornelius Cethegus Barosus, senator consularis
- P. Aurelius Barbatus, quattuorvir rerum curandarum, senator consularis
- C. Flavius Constantinus Aeneas Stilicho, senator consularis
- M. Hortensia Maior Fabiana Faustina, senatrix praetoria
- P. Porcius Licinus, curator aerarii, senator praetorius
- Ti. Iulius Nerva, quattuorvir rerum curandarum, senator praetorius
- A. Vitellius Celsus, senator aedilicius
- A. Iulius Paterculus, quattuorvir rerum curandarum, senator aedilicius
- Cn. Cornelius Lentulus, triumvir monetalis, princeps iuventutis, senator aedilicius
- M. Octavius Corvus, triumvir monetalis, senator tribunicius
- Ap. Curius Rullus, senator tribunicius
- A. Ocratius Maximus Gittus, tribunus militum comitiatus, senator quaestorius
- Sibylla Fulvia Ambrosia, senatrix privata
The following 5 tribuni plebis who are not senators themselves have the right to attend this meeting of
the Senate and are invited to participate therein:
- Ti. Horatius Barbatus, tribunus plebis
- M. Claudius Marcellus, tribunus plebis
- Q. Caecilius Metellus Macedonicus, tribunus plebis
- Q. Flavius Hugo Capito, tribunus plebis
- C. Valeria Terra, tribuna plebis
Schedule
2120 Rome Time (CET) a.d. VI Id. Ian. ‡ 2779 AVC (8 Jan 2026) Call to convene. The call to convene shall last a nundium to allow new senators to subscribe to the Curia Cornelia. 2030 Rome Time (CET) a.d. XVII Kal. Feb. ‡ 2779 AVC (16 Jan 2026) Call to order. Opening address. Agenda items are put forward. Debate period commences. 2030 Rome Time (CET) a.d. IX Kal. Feb. ‡ 2779 AVC (24 Jan 2026) Call to vote. Debate is allowed to continue during voting. 2030 Rome Time (CET) a.d. III Kal. Feb. ‡ 2779 AVC (30 Jan 2026) Voting period closes. No further voting or discussion is permitted. 2230 Rome Time (CET) prid. Kal. Feb. ‡ 2779 AVC (31 Jan 2026) Call to close. Call to close made before this time.
Presiding Magistrate's Closing Comments
This was an ambitious session with lots of information and lots to consider. I very much appreciate all those who commented or provided feedback, even if the comments were small. This was an exciting session as we saw our senators actively considering legislation. It was invigorating to be a part of. There is plenty of actions to take away and I look forward to our next senate sessions.
Agenda
ITEM I Opening Address Item not for vote. Discussion Only. ITEM II Notification of intent: Temporary Exemptions for apparitores from tax payment Item not for vote. Discussion Only. ITEM III Notification of intent: Re-baseline of provincial reporting legislation Item not for vote. Discussion Only. ITEM IV Notification of intent: Enshrining the Cohortes Praetoriae, Cohortes Vigilum, Cohortes Forenses Rei Publicae into law Item not for vote. Discussion Only. ITEM V Fully Nova Roman legion and gladiatorial group tax incentives Item not for vote. Discussion Only. ITEM VI Senatus consultum de assiduitate tribuenda causa civium novorum referendorum - New citizen referral program tax incentive Item not for vote. Withdrawn by presiding magistrate. ITEM VII Senatus consultum de clarificatione temporis referendarum relationum provincialium - Clarity for governors on the latest provincial reporting period Item for Vote ITEM VIII Senatus consultum de tributis perpetuis - New ongoing tax payment requirements Item for Vote ITEM IX Senatus consultum de abolitione consilii praeparatorii - Abolishing the Senate Preparation Committee Item for Vote ITEM X Senatus consultum de foro ordinationis retis publici constituendo - Creation of a central coordination forum for website administration Item for Vote ITEM XI Senatus consultum de Mutationibus Officii Auxilii Civilis Novae Romae - Restructuring of the Civilian Aid Office Item for Vote ITEM XII Senatus consultum de administratione conventus magni Novae Romae - Ongoing arrangements and organisation of the International Grand Convention of Nova Roma Item for Vote ITEM XIII Senatus consultum de quaestoribus aerariis constituendis - Appointment of the treasury quaestors Item for Vote ITEM XIV Senatus consultum de cura insignis sive logotypi macronationalis Novae Romae iterum constituenda - Abolishment of the Trademark Protection Task Force Item for Vote ITEM XV Senatus consultum de Concessione Revocanda - Revocation of the concession allotted to C. Artorius Praeconinus Item for Vote ITEM XVI Senatus consultum de Senatus Consulto Ultimo obsoleto de situ internetuali Novae Romae abrogando - Repeal of directive for the Curator rei Informaticae Item for Vote ITEM XVII Senatus consultum de XI magno Conventu Internationali Romae parilibus habendo - Concerning the 11th great International Convention to be held jointly in Rome Item for Vote
Proposal Results
ITEM VII - Senatus consultum de clarificatione temporis referendarum relationum provincialium - Clarity for governors on the latest provincial reporting period
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 22 (DAI, MCMT, LCB, DCA, MACI, CPST, FVG, SxLT, QAN, TDD, CCCB, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, PPL, TiIN, AVC, AIP, CnCL, MOC, AOMG, SiFA)
Antiquo / Dissentio = 0
Abstineo = 0
Nihil censuerunt = 1 (ApCR)
CENSUERE: ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM PASSED)
ITEM VIII - Senatus consultum de tributis perpetuis - New ongoing tax payment requirements
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 18 (DAI, MCMT, LCB, MACI, CPST, SxLT, QAN, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, PPL, TiIN, AVC, AIP, CnCL, MOC, AOMG, SiFA)
Comments:
- AIP: This follows recent precedents very closely, but by setting an ongoing tax plan should enable citizens to plan further ahead and possibly pay a bit earlier if they choose. A positive development, I think.
Antiquo / Dissentio = 4 (DCA, FVG, TDD, CCCB)
Comments:
- DCA: While I agree with most items in this agenda item, I think the unnecessary tributum militare payment which was implemented 2 years ago (and still hasn't been explained since many people do not live near a NR legion, making it not a choice) should be abolished (or set to 0). To gain assuidi status, in my opinion there should be only one straight forward minimum tax amount for everyone. Additionally, my question of if that extra $6 is even segregated so it to could go to the legions as its stated goal since 2 years went unanswered.
Abstineo = 0
Nihil censuerunt = 1 (ApCR)
CENSUERE: ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM PASSED)
ITEM IX - Senatus consultum de abolitione consilii praeparatorii - Abolishing the Senate Preparation Committee
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 3 (DAI, FVG, TDD)
Antiquo / Dissentio = 19 (MCMT, LCB, DCA, MACI, CPST, SxLT, QAN, CCCB, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, PPL, TiIN, AVC, AIP, CnCL, MOC, AOMG, SiFA)
Comments:
- AIP: I think Cn. Lentulus has made a good point that the existence of this committee doesn't really cost us anything and could be kept as an option for any magistrate (empowered to call together the Senate) who wants it. Review of the relevant senatus consultum (http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Senatus_consultum_on_the_establishment_of_the_senate_preparation_committee), it seems likely that we would need such a body very rarely, since in most cases the Senate should be able to accomplish the same tasks, but I could imagine scenarios in which we would want to bring in outside experts to research particular topics prior to voting on relevant things. If we had to first hold an earlier session to vote to create the committee that would be doing that, it could translate to a few extra months of delay.
- CnCL: I ask all fellow senators to vote against this, because there is historical precedence in ancient Rome for a senate preparation committee (it was called consilium, later consistorium). To keep it is free of burden, and it stays as a legal option to prepare sessions with the most active senators and then to hold faster and better informed sessions with the plenum. It might very well be the case the no current consul, or consul in the near years, wishes to use it, but the option should exist.
Abstineo = 0
Nihil censuerunt: 1 (ApCR)
CENSUERE: NON ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM REJECTED)
ITEM X - Senatus consultum de foro ordinationis retis publici constituendo - Creation of a central coordination forum for website administration
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 21 (DAI, MCMT, LCB, DCA, MACI, CPST, FVG, SxLT, QAN, TDD, CCCB, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, PPL, TiIN, AVC, CnCL, MOC, AOMG, SiFA)
Antiquo / Dissentio = 0
Abstineo = 1 (AIP)
Comments:
- AIP: It makes sense to have one place where we talk about changes to the wiki, but I think the "# nr-website-coordination" channel on the Forum Domitum is already fulfilling that role. Having multiple places where this discussion is taking place may make it harder to follow. Since this senatus consultum leaves the Curator rei Informaticae with the option for approving an alternative to groups.io, I will await his decision whether "# nr-website-coordination" provides such an alternative or if a new group should be created should this senatus consultum pass.
Nihil censuerunt: 1 (ApCR)
CENSUERE: ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM PASSED)
ITEM XI - Senatus consultum de Mutationibus Officii Auxilii Civilis Novae Romae - Restructuring of the Civilian Aid Office
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 3 (DAI, MACI, QAN)
Antiquo / Dissentio = 19 (MCMT, LCB, DCA, CPST, FVG, SxLT, TDD, CCCB, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, PPL, TiIN, AVC, AIP, CnCL, MOC, AOMG, SiFA)
Abstineo = 0
Nihil censuerunt: 1 (ApCR)
CENSUERE: NON ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM REJECTED)
ITEM XII - Senatus consultum de administratione conventus magni Novae Romae - Ongoing arrangements and organization of the International Grand Convention of Nova Roma
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = N/A
Antiquo / Dissentio = N/A
Abstineo = N/A
CENSUERE - Vetoed by M. Caecilius Metellus Tocaiensis, consul.
ITEM XIII - Senatus consultum de quaestoribus aerariis constituendis - Appointment of the treasury quaestors
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 20 (DAI, MCMT, LCB, DCA, MACI, CPST, FVG, SxLT, QAN, TDD, PAB, CFCAS, PPL, TiIN, AVC, AIP, CnCL, MOC, AOMG, SiFA)
Antiquo / Dissentio = 2 (CCCB, MHMFF)
Abstineo = 0
Nihil censuerunt: 1 (ApCR)
CENSUERE: ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM PASSED)
ITEM XIV - Senatus consultum de cura insignis sive logotypi macronationalis Novae Romae iterum constituenda - Abolishment of the Trademark Protection Task Force
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 20 (DAI, MCMT, LCB, DCA, MACI, CPST, SxLT, QAN, CCCB, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, PPL, TiIN, AVC, AIP, CnCL, MOC, AOMG, SiFA)
Comments:
- DCA: I would still like to see trademark protection efforts be made, especially if NR will have a merchandise shop up and running later this year, whether it be through the Curator Aerarii or someone else.
Antiquo / Dissentio = 2 (FVG, TDD)
Abstineo = 0
Nihil censuerunt: 1 (ApCR)
CENSUERE: ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM PASSED)
ITEM XV - Senatus consultum de Concessione Revocanda - Revocation of the concession allotted to C. Artorius Praeconinus
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 22 (DAI, MCMT, LCB, DCA, MACI, CPST, FVG, SxLT, QAN, TDD, CCCB, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, PPL, TiIN, AVC, AIP, CnCL, MOC, AOMG, SiFA)
Comments:
- AIP: Hopefully, new attempts by Praetor D. Claudius this year to open an official Nova Roma merchandise shop will meet success. Revocation of this concession is a necessary step toward trying again.
Antiquo / Dissentio = 0
Abstineo = 0
Comments:
Nihil censuerunt: 1 (ApCR)
CENSUERE: ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM PASSED)
ITEM XVI - Senatus consultum de Senatus Consulto Ultimo obsoleto de situ internetuali Novae Romae abrogando - Repeal of directive for the Curator rei Informaticae
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 19 (DAI, MCMT, LCB, DCA, MACI, CPST, FVG, SxLT, QAN, TDD, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, TiIN, AVC, AIP, MOC, AOMG, SiFA)
Antiquo / Dissentio = 1 (CCCB)
Abstineo = 2 (PPL, CnCL)
Nihil censuerunt: 1 (ApCR)
CENSUERE: ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM PASSED)
ITEM XVII - Senatus consultum de XI magno Conventu Internationali Romae parilibus habendo - Concerning the 11th great International Convention to be held jointly in Rome
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 22 (DAI, MCMT, LCB, DCA, MACI, CPST, FVG, SxLT, QAN, TDD, CCCB, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, PPL, TiIN, AVC, AIP, CnCL, MOC, AOMG, SiFA)
Comments:
- DCA: I am looking forward to attending this convention and hope it is a success - and for that reason, it would be hypocritical of me to vote against motion. Nevertheless, I think spending €4,000, which was added to this item only a day before voting started, is not financially responsible even after getting some bits of information regarding finances and that level of spending is not necessary to have a successful convention. That amount today is equivalent to $4,788 USD, far higher than the annual revenues minus mandatory spending, and is equivalent to over 16% of all money that Nova Roma has per the consul's snapshot. As the dollar is falling quite a bit compared to the euro, and paypal has rather high fees converting currencies, it could end up being above that amount in USD terms. I wish that financial topics would have been debated on their own, full financial reports would have been finally be made, and spending priorities for the year could have been set (including the very large costs apparently needed to overhaul the website once that will be decided). But no, those were not on the agenda. My only hope at this point is that the statement in the proposal made shortly before voting opened: "It is likely that we are staying well under the projected 4000 €" will indeed come to pass.
Antiquo / Dissentio = 0
Abstineo = 0
Nihil censuerunt: 1 (ApCR)
CENSUERE: ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM PASSED)
Session Results
- Senators who did not vote in this session: ApCR.
