Senatvs Consvlta

Senate Voting Results

11 Martius MMDCCLIV

as published by tribune Titus Labienus Fortunatus


Tribunus Plebis T Labienus Fortunatus Quiritibus SPD

The Senate has finished its latest session, and the votes have been
tallied.  I ask any Senatores reading this to make sure that I have
correctly reported your votes and any comments you made.

The following twelve Senatores cast votes.  They are referred to below
by their initials.
 Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix (LCSF)
 Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus (LEC)
 Quintus Fabius Maximus (QFM)
 Caius Flavius Diocletianus (CFD)
 Antonius Gryllus Graecus (AGG)
 Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (DIPI)
 Marcus Iunius Iulianus (MII)
 Titus Labienus Fortunatus (TLF)
 Marcus Minucius Audens (MMA)
 Marcus Octavius Germanicus (MOG)
 Lucius Sergius Australicus (LSA)
 Flavius Vedius Germanicus ((FVG))

The following Senatores did not vote.  M Cassius and Patricia Cassia
have both offered apologies.  Nicolaus Moravius did cast a vote, but was
slightly over two hours late in doing so.
 Caius Aelius Ericius
 Marcus Cassius Julianus
 Patricia Cassia
 Alexander Iulius Caesar Macedonius
 Minervina Iucundia Flavia
 Marcus Marcius Rex
 Gaius Marius Merullus
 Nicolaus Moravius Vado
 Marcus Mucius Scaevola Magister
 Gaius Tullius Triumphius Cicero

The votes were as follows.  Comments issued by Senatores as they voted
are provided under each Senator's vote.  'UTI ROGAS' is a vote for. 
'NEGAT' or 'ANTIQUO' is a vote against.  Other votes are abstentions,
with the exception of votes cast for either L Mauricius or Oppius
Flaccus in Item III.

Item I. Proroguing Existing Governors
A. Nicolaus Moravius Vado (Britannia)
     11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - PROROGUED

LCSF: UTI ROGAS

LEC: UTI ROGAS!
     I echo the sentiments of my fellow Senatores who describe Vado a
shining example of a Propraetor.  Mille Gratias tibi ago, Vado.

QFM: UTI ROGAS
     Only fool or blind man would not see the good this man has done
with his province
     I am neither.

CFD: UTI ROGAS

AGG: UTI ROGAS

DIPI: UTI ROGAS
MII: TI ROGAS

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: UTI ROGAS
     I am pleased to see the recogniion of this hard-working Senator for
his
Provincial Expertise.  It has been a long time coming, but none the less
honorale for that.  I applaud your Provincial Admiitrative Efforts,
Colleague!!!!
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
FVG: UTI ROGAS

B. Primus Fabius Cunctator (Italia)
     0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED

LCSF: NEGAT

LEC: ANTIQUO

QFM: NEGAT
     As much as it pains me to do this, Primus Fabius has been out of
communication with me for over a year.  We need an active ProPraetor in
our mother country.

CFD: NEGAT

AGG: NEGAT

DIPI: NEGAT
MII: NEGAT

TLF: NEGAT
MMA: NEGAT
MOG: NEGAT
LSA: NEGAT
FVG: NEGAT

C. Antonius Gryllus Graecus (Lusitania)
     11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - PROROGUED

LCSF: UTI ROGAS

LEC: UTI ROGAS

QFM: UTI ROGAS
     Not only am I proud to call him a friend, but his interest has
remained constant, even with a tiny populace.

CFD: UTI ROGAS

AGG: ABSTO

DIPI: UTI ROGAS
MII: TI ROGAS

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: UTI ROGAS
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
FVG: UTI ROGAS

D. Alexander Iulius Caesar Macedonius (Pannonia)
     12 for, 0 against - PROROGUED

LCSF: UTI ROGAS

LEC: UTI ROGAS

QFM: UTI ROGAS

CFD: UTI ROGAS

AGG: UTI ROGAS

DIPI: UTI ROGAS
MII: TI ROGAS

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: UTI ROGAS
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
FVG: UTI ROGAS

E. Aulus Artorius Arius
     0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED

LCSF: NEGAT

LEC: ANTIQUO

QFM: NEGAT
     It is apparent that he has lost interest.

CFD: NEGAT

AGG: NEGAT

DIPI: NEGAT
MII: NEGAT

TLF: NEGAT
MMA: NEGAT
MOG: NEGAT
LSA: NEGAT
FVG: NEGAT

F. Magnus Hadrianus Ingmarius Cogitatus Thuleus
     0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED

LCSF: NEGAT

LEC: ANTIQUO

QFM: NEGAT
     I sent this man 17 messages last year.  Not one was answered.  I do
not believe he exists.

CFD: NEGAT

AGG: NEGAT

DIPI: NEGAT
MII: NEGAT

TLF: NEGAT
MMA: NEGAT
MOG: NEGAT
LSA: NEGAT
FVG: NEGAT

G. Livia Marcia Aurelia
     5 for, 5 against, 2 abstentions - NOT PROROGUED

LCSF: NEGAT

LEC: ABSTO
     I am truly vexed about this.  The attitude expressed in the matter
of dissatisfied citizens is questionable.  In the future, if she has any
doubts about cooperation with "outside" organizations she should contact
the Senate.  As far as I know there is nothing prohibiting citizens from
being members of other "Roman groups".  Also, I lean towards not
proroging her because of the 'coverup' concerning who made the 'leak',
"If it is not wrong then what is there to hide?"
     I'm not sure one way or the other, and I see the truth in both
sides of the argument concerning her performance.

QFM: ABSTANO
     I realize this is going to upset a lot of people.  However I feel
that Marcia has not gone around trying to destroy Nova Roma.  She took
office at the end of my consulship, and I believe she deserves more of a
chance to show exactly what she can do in Austroccidentalis.  I was
upset when she put her friends' well being above the law, but again we
do not know the complete story.  And it is true that the Senate seal has
always been a tradition rather then written law.  That will be rectified
shortly.
     I cannot deny her, but I don't 100% believe in her, yet. 
Therefore, my vote as above.

CFD: UTI ROGAS

AGG: NEGAT

DIPI: NEGAT
MII: NEGAT

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: UTI ROGAS
     I have deliberated long over this particular decision.  I have
worked with this Lady closely in the past and she has done good work for
Nova Roma and apparently for her province.  She has established
communication lines, organized face to face meetings, and she has made
regular reports.  She has done more, as a working Propraetor, than
several others who are in like position.  She is an opinionated
individual and tends to see situations in light of her values and not
necessarily others.  She has resigned her positions in Militarium and
Egressus, without notice, but she has recruited others that were able to
take her place in those endeavors.  The charges leveled against her in
regard to recruitment and security are not clear and lack proof beyond
innuendo. She is not a Senator, and apparently sees no reason to support
a Senate agreement, but she is not being cosidered for that position. 
Her familial considerations are in the past for now, and the final
solution there, may well come in the future.  She is strongly supported
by Senators Vado, Fortunatus, Australicus and Rex all of whom I hold in
particular esteem, and by several others, and outside of a certain sense
of loss resulting from her resignations, I can see no concrete reason to
keep her from her appointed place, there being several instances in the
past where others have retained and been restored to thier appointed
places for much more serious breaches than hers.  I must say in closing,
that I do not care for many of her views, but there are others in Nova
Roma, who in my opinion, still hold thier position after much worse than
this lady has done or said, so let us begin to "level the field.
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
     It is not clear that she has done anything that would warrant
removal from office.
FVG: NEGAT
     I do reserve the right to change this vote prior to the end of the
voting period, pending any further communication Livia Marcia Aurelia to
the Senate.  I hope she does so, and in so doing, explains her recent
actions as governor sufficiently to allow me to alter my vote in her
favor.

H. Minervina Iucundia Flavia
     0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED

LCSF: NEGAT

LEC: ANTIQUO, dolore

QFM: NEGAT
     With reluctance I do as she has requested.

CFD: NEGAT

AGG: NEGAT

DIPI: NEGAT
MII: NEGAT

TLF: NEGAT
MMA: NEGAT
MOG: NEGAT
LSA: NEGAT
FVG: NEGAT

I. Gaius Iunius Germanus
     0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED

LCSF: NEGAT

LEC: ANTIQUO

QFM: NEGAT
     I have never seen one report from him.  I have seen 4 from Marcia.

CFD: NEGAT

AGG: NEGAT

DIPI: NEGAT
     This person was cast out from the gens Iunia quite awhile ago and
should not be referred to by this name.
MII: NEGAT

TLF: NEGAT
MMA: NEGAT
MOG: NEGAT
LSA: NEGAT
FVG: NEGAT

J. Flavius Vedius Germanicus
     11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - PROROGUED

LCSF: UTI ROGAS

LEC: UTI ROGAS

QFM: UTI ROGAS

CFD: UTI ROGAS

AGG: UTI ROGAS

DIPI: UTI ROGAS
MII: TI ROGAS

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: UTI ROGAS
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
FVG: ABSTINEO

K. Paulus Olympius Gallus
0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED

LCSF: NEGAT

LEC: ANTIQUO

QFM: NEGAT
     Again a report would have been nice.

CFD: NEGAT

AGG: NEGAT

DIPI: NEGAT
MII: NEGAT

TLF: NEGAT
MMA: NEGAT
MOG: NEGAT
LSA: NEGAT
FVG: NEGAT

Item II. New propraetores
A. Secunda Cornelia Valeria (America Med Sup)
     12 for, 0 against - APPOINTED

LCSF: UTI ROGAS

LEC: UTI ROGAS

QFM: UTI ROGAS

CFD: UTI ROGAS

AGG: UTI ROGAS

DIPI: UTI ROGAS
MII: TI ROGAS

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: UTI ROGAS
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
FVG: UTI ROGAS

B. Quintus Fabius Maximus (California)
     11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - APPOINTED

LCSF: UTI ROGAS

LEC: UTI ROGAS

QFM: ABSTANO

CFD: UTI ROGAS

AGG: UTI ROGAS

DIPI: UTI ROGAS
MII: TI ROGAS

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: UTI ROGAS
     (with much pleasure and my strong support)
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
FVG: UTI ROGAS

C. Marcus Minucius Audens (Nova Britannia)
     11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - APPOINTED

LCSF: UTI ROGAS

LEC: UTI ROGAS

QFM: A hearty UTI ROGAS

CFD: UTI ROGAS

AGG: UTI ROGAS

DIPI: UTI ROGAS
MII: TI ROGAS

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: ABSTANO
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
FVG: UTI ROGAS

D. Caius Flavius Diocletianus (Germania)
     11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - APPOINTED

LCSF: UTI ROGAS

LEC: UTI ROGAS

QFM: UTI ROGAS
     Flavius will continue on the fine work started by Marcus Marcius.

CFD: ABSTO

AGG: UTI ROGAS

DIPI: UTI ROGAS
MII: TI ROGAS

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: UTI ROGAS
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
FVG: UTI ROGAS

Item III. Appointing New Governors, Part II
     10 for L Mauricius, 1 for Oppius Flaccus, 1 abstention
     L MAURICIUS IS APPOINTED

LCSF: Lucius Mauricius Procopious

LEC: Lucius Mauricius Procopious

QFM: Lucius Mauricius Procopious

CFD: Lucius Mauricius Procopious

AGG: ABSTO

DIPI: Lucius Mauricius Procopious
MII:Lucius Mauricius Procopious

TLF: Lucius Mauricius Procopious
MMA: Lucius Mauricius Procopious
MOG:  Oppius Flaccus Severus
     I vote for Oppius Flaccus.  He's no longer interested in the job,
and therefore cannot be elected, but I'll cast this symbolic vote to
acknowledge his excellent proposal.
LSA    
                 
           
   
          : Lucius Mauricius
ProcopiousFVG:          Lucius Mauricius Procopious

Item IV. Appointment of M Minucius Audens as Coordinator Responsum
     11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - APPOINTED

LCSF: UTI ROGAS

LEC: UTI ROGAS

QFM: UTI ROGAS

CFD: UTI ROGAS

AGG: UTI ROGAS

DIPI: UTI ROGAS
MII: TI ROGAS

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: ABSTANO
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
FVG: UTI ROGAS

Item V. Regulation of Gubernatorial Prorogation
     11 for, 1 against - PASSED

LCSF: UTI ROGAS

LEC: UTI ROGAS

QFM: UTI ROGAS
     While I understand my colleagues' reluctance to burden Provincials
with additional duties, I believe these reports are important and will
determine suitability to administer.

CFD: UTI ROGAS

AGG: UTI ROGAS

DIPI: NEGAT
MII: TI ROGAS

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: UTI ROGAS
     Considering the value of this year's prorogation in ridding
ourselves of some people clearly not suited to the position of
Provincial Governor, I think this action is of significant value,  It
may be true that a word here or a phrase there may be smoother in the
fullness of time, but in my humble view the need is here and now,and
should serve notice to all that Governors are an extremely important
facet and position in Nova Roma.
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
FVG: UTI ROGAS

Item VI. Authorization for Production of 1-Sesterce Coins
     12 for, 0 against - AUTHORIZED

LCSF: UTI ROGAS

LEC: UTI ROGAS!

QFM: UTI ROGAS
     Finally!

CFD: UTI ROGAS

AGG: UTI ROGAS

DIPI: UTI ROGAS
MII: TI ROGAS

TLF: UTI ROGAS
MMA: UTI ROGAS
MOG: UTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS
FVG: UTI ROGAS

Valete

12/31/2000

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