Session XXVII 11 March 2754

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Senate session report for 11 March 2754 as published by tribune Titus Labienus Fortunatus and posted in the “old Tabularium”.
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''Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Censor, 10 August 2761 a.u.c..''
  
{{Senate Session|Dec|31|2000}}
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Tribunus Plebis '''T Labienus Fortunatus''' Quiritibus SPD
Senate action for 1 1March 2754 as posted in the “old Tabularium”  
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Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Censor  10 August 2761 A.V.C.
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Senate Voting Results
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11 Martius MMDCCLIV  as published by tribune Titus Labienus Fortunatus
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Tribunus Plebis T Labienus Fortunatus Quiritibus SPD
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The Senate has finished its latest session, and the votes have been
 
The Senate has finished its latest session, and the votes have been
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correctly reported your votes and any comments you made.
 
correctly reported your votes and any comments you made.
  
The following twelve Senatores cast votes.  They are referred to below
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The following 12 Senatores cast votes.  They are referred to below
 
by their initials.
 
by their initials.
 
*Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix (LCSF)
 
*Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix (LCSF)
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*Flavius Vedius Germanicus ((FVG))
 
*Flavius Vedius Germanicus ((FVG))
  
The following Senatores did not vote.  M Cassius and Patricia Cassia
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The following 10 senatores did not vote.  M Cassius and Patricia Cassia
 
have both offered apologies.  Nicolaus Moravius did cast a vote, but was
 
have both offered apologies.  Nicolaus Moravius did cast a vote, but was
 
slightly over two hours late in doing so.
 
slightly over two hours late in doing so.
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*Marcus Mucius Scaevola Magister
 
*Marcus Mucius Scaevola Magister
 
*Gaius Tullius Triumphius Cicero
 
*Gaius Tullius Triumphius Cicero
The votes were as follows. Comments issued by Senatores as they voted
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The votes were as follows. Comments issued by senatores as they voted
 
are provided under each Senator's vote.  'UTI ROGAS' is a vote for.  
 
are provided under each Senator's vote.  'UTI ROGAS' is a vote for.  
'NEGAT' or 'ANTIQUO' is a vote against.  Other votes are abstentions,
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'ANTIQUO' is a vote against.  Other votes are abstentions ('ABSTINEO'),
 
with the exception of votes cast for either L Mauricius or Oppius
 
with the exception of votes cast for either L Mauricius or Oppius
 
Flaccus in Item III.
 
Flaccus in Item III.
  
Item I. Proroguing Existing Governors
 
A. Nicolaus Moravius Vado (Britannia)
 
11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - PROROGUED
 
  
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS
 
*LEC: UTI ROGAS!
 
I echo the sentiments of my fellow Senatores who describe Vado a
 
shining example of a Propraetor.  Mille Gratias tibi ago, Vado.
 
  
*QFM: UTI ROGAS
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==Item I. Prorogation of current governors==
Only fool or blind man would not see the good this man has done
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with his province I am neither.
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*CFD: UTI ROGAS
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*AGG: UTI ROGAS
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*DIPI: UTI ROGAS
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*MII: TI ROGAS
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*TLF: UTI ROGAS
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*MMA: UTI ROGAS
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I am pleased to see the recognition of this hard-working Senator for
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His Provincial Expertise.  It has been a long time coming, but none the less honorale for that.  I applaud your Provincial Administrative Efforts,
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Colleague!!!!
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*MOG: UTI ROGAS
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*LSA: UTI ROGAS
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*FVG: UTI ROGAS
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B. Primus Fabius Cunctator (Italia)
 
0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED
 
  
*LCSF: NEGAT
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===A. Britannia: Nicolaus Moravius Vado===
*LEC: ANTIQUO
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*QFM: NEGAT
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As much as it pains me to do this, Primus Fabius has been out of
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communication with me for over a year. We need an active ProPraetor in
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our mother country.
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*CFD: NEGAT
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*AGG: NEGAT
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*DIPI: NEGAT
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*MII: NEGAT
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*TLF: NEGAT
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*MMA: NEGAT
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*MOG: NEGAT
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*LSA: NEGAT
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*FVG: NEGAT
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C. Antonius Gryllus Graecus (Lusitania)
 
11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - PROROGUED
 
  
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS
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====Results====
*LEC: UTI ROGAS
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*QFM: UTI ROGAS
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Not only am I proud to call him a friend, but his interest has
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remained constant, even with a tiny populace.
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*CFD: UTI ROGAS
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*AGG: ABSTO
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*DIPI: UTI ROGAS
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*MII: TI ROGAS
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*TLF: UTI ROGAS
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*MMA: UTI ROGAS
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*MOG: UTI ROGAS
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*LSA: UTI ROGAS
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*FVG: UTI ROGAS
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D. Alexander Iulius Caesar Macedonius (Pannonia)
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12 UR, 0 ABS, 0 ANT: the sub-item has '''passed''' and '''Nicolaus Moravius Vado''' is thus '''prorogued'''.
12 for, 0 against - PROROGUED
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*LCSF: UTI ROGAS
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====Votes and opinions====
*LEC: UTI ROGAS
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*QFM: UTI ROGAS
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*CFD: UTI ROGAS
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*AGG: UTI ROGAS
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*DIPI: UTI ROGAS
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*MII: TI ROGAS
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*TLF: UTI ROGAS
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*MMA: UTI ROGAS
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*MOG: UTI ROGAS
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*LSA: UTI ROGAS
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*FVG: UTI ROGAS
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E. Aulus Artorius Arius
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Three senators have added a commentary:
0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED
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*LEC: I echo the sentiments of my fellow Senatores who describe Vado a shining example of a Propraetor. Mille Gratias tibi ago, Vado.
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*QFM: Only fool or blind man would not see the good this man has done with his province I am neither.
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*MMA: I am pleased to see the recognition of this hard-working Senator for his Provincial expertise.  It has been a long time coming, but none the less honorale for that. I applaud your Provincial administrative efforts, Colleague!!!!
  
*LCSF: NEGAT
 
*LEC: ANTIQUO
 
*QFM: NEGAT It is apparent that he has lost interest.
 
*CFD: NEGAT
 
*AGG: NEGAT
 
*DIPI: NEGAT
 
*MII: NEGAT
 
*TLF: NEGAT
 
*MMA: NEGAT
 
*MOG: NEGAT
 
*LSA: NEGAT
 
*FVG: NEGAT
 
  
F. Magnus Hadrianus Ingmarius Cogitatus Thuleus
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===B. Italia: Primus Fabius Cunctator===
0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED
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*LCSF: NEGAT
 
*LEC: ANTIQUO
 
*QFM: NEGAT I sent this man 17 messages last year.  Not one was answered.  I do
 
not believe he exists.
 
*CFD: NEGAT
 
*AGG: NEGAT
 
*DIPI: NEGAT
 
*MII: NEGAT
 
*TLF: NEGAT
 
*MMA: NEGAT
 
*MOG: NEGAT
 
*LSA: NEGAT
 
*FVG: NEGAT
 
  
G. Livia Marcia Aurelia
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====Results====
5 for, 5 against, 2 abstentions - NOT PROROGUED
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0 UR, 0 ABS, 12 ANT: the sub-item has '''failed''' and '''Primus Fabius Cunctator''' is thus '''removed''' from his office.
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====Votes and opinions====
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One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "As much as it pains me to do this, Primus Fabius has been out of
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communication with me for over a year.  We need an active ProPraetor in our mother country."
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*LCSF: NEGAT
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===C. Lusitania: C. Antonius Gryllus Graecus===
*LEC: ABSTO
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I am truly vexed about this.  The attitude expressed in the matter
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of dissatisfied citizens is questionable.  In the future, if she has any
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====Results====
doubts about cooperation with "outside" organizations she should contact
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the Senate.  As far as I know there is nothing prohibiting citizens from
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being members of other "Roman groups".  Also, I lean towards not
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11 UR, 1 ABS, 0 ANT: the sub-item has '''passed''' and '''C. Antonius Gryllus Graecus''' is thus '''prorogued'''.
proroging her because of the 'coverup' concerning who made the 'leak',
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"If it is not wrong then what is there to hide?"
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I'm not sure one way or the other, and I see the truth in both
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====Votes and opinions====
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One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "Not only am I proud to call him a friend, but his interest has
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remained constant, even with a tiny populace."
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===D. Panonnia: Alexander Iulius Caesar Macedonius===
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====Results====
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12 UR, 0 ABS, 0 ANT: the sub-item has '''passed''' and '''Alexander Iulius Caesar Macedonius''' is thus '''prorogued'''.
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====Votes and opinions====
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No senator has added a commentary.
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===E. xxxx: Aulus Artorius Arius===
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====Results====
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0 UR, 0 ABS, 12 ANT: the sub-item has '''failed''' and '''Aulus Artorius Arius''' is thus '''removed''' from his office.
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====Votes and opinions====
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One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "It is apparent that he has lost interest.".
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===F. xxxx: Magnus Hadrianus Ingmarius Cogitatus Thuleus===
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====Results====
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0 UR, 0 ABS, 12 ANT: the sub-item has '''failed''' and '''Magnus Hadrianus Ingmarius Cogitatus Thuleus''' is thus '''removed''' from his office.
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====Votes and opinions====
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One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "I sent this man 17 messages last year.  Not one was answered.  I do
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not believe he exists."
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===G. xxxx: Livia Marcia Aurelia===
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====Results====
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5 UR, 0 ABS, 5 ANT (LCSF, AGG, DIPI, MII, FVG): the sub-item has '''failed''' and '''Livia Marcia Aurelia''' is thus '''removed''' from her office.
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====Votes and opinions====
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Five senators have added a commentary:  
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*LEC: ABS. I am truly vexed about this.  The attitude expressed in the matter of dissatisfied citizens is questionable.  In the future, if she has any doubts about cooperation with "outside" organizations she should contact the Senate.  As far as I know there is nothing prohibiting citizens from being members of other "Roman groups".  Also, I lean towards not proroging her because of the 'coverup' concerning who made the 'leak',
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"If it is not wrong then what is there to hide?" I'm not sure one way or the other, and I see the truth in both
 
sides of the argument concerning her performance.
 
sides of the argument concerning her performance.
 
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*QFM: I realize this is going to upset a lot of people.  However I feel that Marcia has not gone around trying to destroy Nova Roma.  She took office at the end of my consulship, and I believe she deserves more of a chance to show exactly what she can do in Austroccidentalis.  I was upset when she put her friends' well being above the law, but again we do not know the complete story.  And it is true that the Senate seal has always been a tradition rather then written law.  That will be rectified shortly. I cannot deny her, but I don't 100% believe in her, yet.  
*QFM: ABSTANO
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I realize this is going to upset a lot of people.  However I feel
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that Marcia has not gone around trying to destroy Nova Roma.  She took
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office at the end of my consulship, and I believe she deserves more of a
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chance to show exactly what she can do in Austroccidentalis.  I was
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upset when she put her friends' well being above the law, but again we
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do not know the complete story.  And it is true that the Senate seal has
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always been a tradition rather then written law.  That will be rectified
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shortly. I cannot deny her, but I don't 100% believe in her, yet.  
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Therefore, my vote as above.
 
Therefore, my vote as above.
*CFD: UTI ROGAS
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*MMA: UR. I have deliberated long over this particular decision.  I have worked with this Lady closely in the past and she has done good work for Nova Roma and apparently for her province.  She has established communication lines, organized face to face meetings, and she has made regular reports.  She has done more, as a working Propraetor, than
*AGG: NEGAT
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several others who are in like position. She is an opinionated individual and tends to see situations in light of her values and not necessarily others. She has resigned her positions in Militarium and Egressus, without notice, but she has recruited others that were able to take her place in those endeavors. The charges leveled against her in regard to recruitment and security are not clear and lack proof beyond innuendo. She is not a Senator, and apparently sees no reason to support a Senate agreement, but she is not being cosidered for that position. Her familial considerations are in the past for now, and the final solution there, may well come in the future. She is strongly supported by Senators Vado, Fortunatus, Australicus and Rex all of whom I hold in particular esteem, and by several others, and outside of a certain sense of loss resulting from her resignations, I can see no concrete reason to keep her from her appointed place, there being several instances in the past where others have retained and been restored to their appointed places for much more serious breaches than hers. I must say in closing, that I do not care for many of her views, but there are others in Nova Roma, who in my opinion, still hold their position after much worse than this lady has done or said, so let us begin to "level the field".
*DIPI: NEGAT
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*LSA: UR. It is not clear that she has done anything that would warrant removal from office.
*MII: NEGAT
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*FVG: ANT.I do reserve the right to change this vote prior to the end of the voting period, pending any further communication Livia Marcia Aurelia to the Senate.  I hope she does so, and in so doing, explains her recent actions as governor sufficiently to allow me to alter my vote in her favor.
*TLF: UTI ROGAS
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*MMA: UTI ROGAS
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I have deliberated long over this particular decision.  I have
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worked with this Lady closely in the past and she has done good work for
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Nova Roma and apparently for her province.  She has established
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communication lines, organized face to face meetings, and she has made
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regular reports.  She has done more, as a working Propraetor, than
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several others who are in like position. She is an opinionated
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individual and tends to see situations in light of her values and not
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necessarily others. She has resigned her positions in Militarium and
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Egressus, without notice, but she has recruited others that were able to
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take her place in those endeavors. The charges leveled against her in
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regard to recruitment and security are not clear and lack proof beyond
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innuendo. She is not a Senator, and apparently sees no reason to support
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a Senate agreement, but she is not being cosidered for that position.  
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Her familial considerations are in the past for now, and the final
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solution there, may well come in the future. She is strongly supported
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by Senators Vado, Fortunatus, Australicus and Rex all of whom I hold in
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particular esteem, and by several others, and outside of a certain sense
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of loss resulting from her resignations, I can see no concrete reason to
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keep her from her appointed place, there being several instances in the
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past where others have retained and been restored to their appointed
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places for much more serious breaches than hers. I must say in closing,
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that I do not care for many of her views, but there are others in Nova
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Roma, who in my opinion, still hold their position after much worse than
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this lady has done or said, so let us begin to "level the field.
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*MOG: UTI ROGAS
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*LSA: UTI ROGAS
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It is not clear that she has done anything that would warrant
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removal from office.
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*FVG: NEGAT
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I do reserve the right to change this vote prior to the end of the
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voting period, pending any further communication Livia Marcia Aurelia to
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the Senate.  I hope she does so, and in so doing, explains her recent
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actions as governor sufficiently to allow me to alter my vote in her
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favor.
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*H. Minervina Iucundia Flavia
 
0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED
 
  
*LCSF: NEGAT
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*LEC: ANTIQUO, dolore
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*QFM: NEGAT With reluctance I do as she has requested.
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===H. xxxx: Minervina Iucundia Flavia===
*CFD: NEGAT
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*AGG: NEGAT
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*DIPI: NEGAT
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====Results====
*MII: NEGAT
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*TLF: NEGAT
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0 UR, 0 ABS, 12 ANT: the sub-item has '''failed''' and '''Minervina Iucundia Flavia''' is thus '''removed''' from his office.
*MMA: NEGAT
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*MOG: NEGAT
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*LSA: NEGAT
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====Votes and opinions====
*FVG: NEGAT
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Two senators have added a commentary:
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*QFM: "With reluctance I do as she has requested."
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*LEC: "Dolore".
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I. Gaius Iunius Germanus
 
I. Gaius Iunius Germanus
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*FVG: NEGAT
 
*FVG: NEGAT
  
Item II. New propraetores
 
A. Secunda Cornelia Valeria (America Med Sup)
 
12 for, 0 against - APPOINTED
 
  
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS
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==Item II. Appointment of new governors==
*LEC: UTI ROGAS
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*QFM: UTI ROGAS
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*CFD: UTI ROGAS
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*AGG: UTI ROGAS
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*DIPI: UTI ROGAS
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*MII: TI ROGAS
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*TLF: UTI ROGAS
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*MMA: UTI ROGAS
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*MOG: UTI ROGAS
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*LSA: UTI ROGAS
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*FVG: UTI ROGAS
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B. Quintus Fabius Maximus (California)
 
11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - APPOINTED
 
  
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS
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===A. America Med Sup: Secunda Cornelia Valeria===
*LEC: UTI ROGAS
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*QFM: ABSTANO
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*CFD: UTI ROGAS
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*AGG: UTI ROGAS
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*DIPI: UTI ROGAS
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*MII: TI ROGAS
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*TLF: UTI ROGAS
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*MMA: UTI ROGAS (with much pleasure and my strong support)
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*MOG: UTI ROGAS
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*LSA: UTI ROGAS
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*FVG: UTI ROGAS
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C. Marcus Minucius Audens (Nova Britannia)
 
11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - APPOINTED
 
  
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS
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====Results====
*LEC: UTI ROGAS
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*QFM: A hearty UTI ROGAS
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*CFD: UTI ROGAS
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*AGG: UTI ROGAS
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*DIPI: UTI ROGAS
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*MII: TI ROGAS
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*TLF: UTI ROGAS
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*MMA: ABSTANO
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*MOG: UTI ROGAS
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*LSA: UTI ROGAS
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*FVG: UTI ROGAS
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D. Caius Flavius Diocletianus (Germania)
 
11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - APPOINTED
 
  
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS
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12 UR, 0 ABS, 0 ANT: the sub-item has '''passed''' and '''Secunda Cornelia Valeria'''is thus '''appointed'''.
*LEC: UTI ROGAS
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*QFM: UTI ROGAS Flavius will continue on the fine work started by Marcus Marcius.
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*CFD: ABSTO
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*AGG: UTI ROGAS
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*DIPI: UTI ROGAS
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*MII: TI ROGAS
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*TLF: UTI ROGAS
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*MMA: UTI ROGAS
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*MOG: UTI ROGAS
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*LSA: UTI ROGAS
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*FVG: UTI ROGAS
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Item III. Appointing New Governors, Part II
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====Votes and opinions====
10 for L Mauricius, 1 for Oppius Flaccus, 1 abstention
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L MAURICIUS IS APPOINTED
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No senator has added a commentary.
  
*LCSF: Lucius Mauricius Procopious
 
*LEC: Lucius Mauricius Procopious
 
*QFM: Lucius Mauricius Procopious
 
*CFD: Lucius Mauricius Procopious
 
*AGG: ABSTO
 
*DIPI: Lucius Mauricius Procopious
 
*MII:Lucius Mauricius Procopious
 
*TLF: Lucius Mauricius Procopious
 
*MMA: Lucius Mauricius Procopious
 
*MOG:  Oppius Flaccus Severus
 
I vote for Oppius Flaccus.  He's no longer interested in the job,
 
and therefore cannot be elected, but I'll cast this symbolic vote to
 
acknowledge his excellent proposal.
 
*LSA: Lucius Mauricius Procopious
 
*FVG:  Lucius Mauricius Procopious
 
  
Item IV. Appointment of M Minucius Audens as Coordinator Responsum
 
11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - APPOINTED
 
  
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS
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===B. California: Quintus Fabius Maximus===
*LEC: UTI ROGAS
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*QFM: UTI ROGAS
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*CFD: UTI ROGAS
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*AGG: UTI ROGAS
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*DIPI: UTI ROGAS
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*MII: TI ROGAS
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*TLF: UTI ROGAS
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*MMA: ABSTANO
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*MOG: UTI ROGAS
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*LSA: UTI ROGAS
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*FVG: UTI ROGAS
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Item V. Regulation of Gubernatorial Prorogation
 
11 for, 1 against - PASSED
 
  
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS
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====Results====
*LEC: UTI ROGAS
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*QFM: UTI ROGAS While I understand my colleagues' reluctance to burden Provincials
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with additional duties, I believe these reports are important and will
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11 UR, 1 ABS, 0 ANT: the sub-item has '''passed''' and '''Quintus Fabius Maximus''' is thus '''appointed'''.
determine suitability to administer.
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*CFD: UTI ROGAS
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====Votes and opinions====
*AGG: UTI ROGAS
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*DIPI: NEGAT
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One senator has added a commentary: MMA: "With much pleasure and my strong support.".
*MII: TI ROGAS
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*TLF: UTI ROGAS
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*MMA: UTI ROGAS
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===C. Nova Britannia: Marcus Minucius Audens===
Considering the value of this year's prorogation in ridding
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ourselves of some people clearly not suited to the position of
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Provincial Governor, I think this action is of significant value,  It
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====Results====
may be true that a word here or a phrase there may be smoother in the
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fullness of time, but in my humble view the need is here and now,and
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should serve notice to all that Governors are an extremely important
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11 UR, 1 ABS (MMA), 0 ANT: the sub-item has '''passed''' and '''Marcus Minucius Audens'''is thus '''appointed'''.
facet and position in Nova Roma.
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*MOG: UTI ROGAS
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====Votes and opinions====
*LSA: UTI ROGAS
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*FVG: UTI ROGAS
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One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "A hearty 'uti rogas'.".
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===D. Germania: Caius Flavius Diocletianus===
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====Results====
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Item VI. Authorization for Production of 1-Sesterce Coins
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11 UR, 1 ABS (CFD), 0 ANT: the sub-item has '''passed''' and '''Caius Flavius Diocletianus''' is thus '''appointed'''.
12 for, 0 against - AUTHORIZED
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====Votes and opinions====
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One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "Flavius will continue on the fine work started by Marcus Marcius".
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==Item IV. Appointment of new governors: Lucius Mauricius Procopius *or* Oppius Flaccus Severus?==
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====Results====
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*Lucius Mauricius Procopius: 10 UR;
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*Oppius Flaccus Severus: 1 UR;
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*ABS: 1.
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  '''Lucius Mauricius Procopius''' is thus '''appointed'''.
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====Votes and opinions====
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One senator has added a commentary: *MOG:  I vote for Oppius Flaccus. He's no longer interested in the job, and therefore cannot be elected, but I'll cast this symbolic vote to acknowledge his excellent proposal."
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==Item IV. Appointment of M Minucius Audens as Coordinator Responsum==
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===Results===
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11 UR, 1 ABS (MMA), 0 ANT: the item has '''passed'''.
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==Item V. To be prorogued, a governor must send previously a yearly report to the Senate==
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===Results===
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11 UR, 0 ABS, 1 ANT (DIPI): the item has '''passed'''.
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===Results===
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Two senators have added a commentary:
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*QFM: "While I understand my colleagues' reluctance to burden Provincials with additional duties, I believe these reports are important and will determine suitability to administer."
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*MMA: "Considering the value of this year's prorogation in ridding ourselves of some people clearly not suited to the position of Provincial governor, I think this action is of significant value, it may be true that a word here or a phrase there may be smoother in the fullness of time, but in my humble view the need is here and now, and should serve notice to all that Governors are an extremely important facet and position in Nova Roma."
  
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS
 
*LEC: UTI ROGAS!
 
*QFM: UTI ROGAS
 
Finally!
 
*CFD: UTI ROGAS
 
*AGG: UTI ROGAS
 
*DIPI: UTI ROGAS
 
*MII: TI ROGAS
 
*TLF: UTI ROGAS
 
*MMA: UTI ROGAS
 
*MOG: UTI ROGAS
 
*LSA: UTI ROGAS
 
8FVG: UTI ROGAS
 
  
Valete
 
  
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==Item VI. Authorization for the production of a Sesterce coin==
  
  
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The 12 senators voted 'uti rogas'. The item has therefore '''passed'''.

Revision as of 17:03, 12 January 2010

Senate session report for 11 March 2754 as published by tribune Titus Labienus Fortunatus and posted in the “old Tabularium”. Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Censor, 10 August 2761 a.u.c..


Tribunus Plebis T Labienus Fortunatus Quiritibus SPD

The Senate has finished its latest session, and the votes have been tallied. I ask any Senatores reading this to make sure that I have correctly reported your votes and any comments you made.

The following 12 Senatores cast votes. They are referred to below by their initials.

  • Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix (LCSF)
  • Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus (LEC)
  • Quintus Fabius Maximus (QFM)
  • Caius Flavius Diocletianus (CFD)
  • Antonius Gryllus Graecus (AGG)
  • Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (DIPI)
  • Marcus Iunius Iulianus (MII)
  • Titus Labienus Fortunatus (TLF)
  • Marcus Minucius Audens (MMA)
  • Marcus Octavius Germanicus (MOG)
  • Lucius Sergius Australicus (LSA)
  • Flavius Vedius Germanicus ((FVG))

The following 10 senatores did not vote. M Cassius and Patricia Cassia have both offered apologies. Nicolaus Moravius did cast a vote, but was slightly over two hours late in doing so.

  • Caius Aelius Ericius
  • Marcus Cassius Julianus
  • Patricia Cassia
  • Alexander Iulius Caesar Macedonius
  • Minervina Iucundia Flavia
  • Marcus Marcius Rex
  • Gaius Marius Merullus
  • Nicolaus Moravius Vado
  • Marcus Mucius Scaevola Magister
  • Gaius Tullius Triumphius Cicero


The votes were as follows. Comments issued by senatores as they voted are provided under each Senator's vote. 'UTI ROGAS' is a vote for. 'ANTIQUO' is a vote against. Other votes are abstentions ('ABSTINEO'), with the exception of votes cast for either L Mauricius or Oppius Flaccus in Item III.


Contents

Item I. Prorogation of current governors

A. Britannia: Nicolaus Moravius Vado

Results

12 UR, 0 ABS, 0 ANT: the sub-item has passed and Nicolaus Moravius Vado is thus prorogued.

Votes and opinions

Three senators have added a commentary:

  • LEC: I echo the sentiments of my fellow Senatores who describe Vado a shining example of a Propraetor. Mille Gratias tibi ago, Vado.
  • QFM: Only fool or blind man would not see the good this man has done with his province I am neither.
  • MMA: I am pleased to see the recognition of this hard-working Senator for his Provincial expertise. It has been a long time coming, but none the less honorale for that. I applaud your Provincial administrative efforts, Colleague!!!!


B. Italia: Primus Fabius Cunctator

Results

0 UR, 0 ABS, 12 ANT: the sub-item has failed and Primus Fabius Cunctator is thus removed from his office.


Votes and opinions

One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "As much as it pains me to do this, Primus Fabius has been out of communication with me for over a year. We need an active ProPraetor in our mother country."


C. Lusitania: C. Antonius Gryllus Graecus

Results

11 UR, 1 ABS, 0 ANT: the sub-item has passed and C. Antonius Gryllus Graecus is thus prorogued.


Votes and opinions

One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "Not only am I proud to call him a friend, but his interest has remained constant, even with a tiny populace."


D. Panonnia: Alexander Iulius Caesar Macedonius

Results

12 UR, 0 ABS, 0 ANT: the sub-item has passed and Alexander Iulius Caesar Macedonius is thus prorogued.

Votes and opinions

No senator has added a commentary.


E. xxxx: Aulus Artorius Arius

Results

0 UR, 0 ABS, 12 ANT: the sub-item has failed and Aulus Artorius Arius is thus removed from his office.


Votes and opinions

One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "It is apparent that he has lost interest.".


F. xxxx: Magnus Hadrianus Ingmarius Cogitatus Thuleus

Results

0 UR, 0 ABS, 12 ANT: the sub-item has failed and Magnus Hadrianus Ingmarius Cogitatus Thuleus is thus removed from his office.


Votes and opinions

One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "I sent this man 17 messages last year. Not one was answered. I do not believe he exists."


G. xxxx: Livia Marcia Aurelia

Results

5 UR, 0 ABS, 5 ANT (LCSF, AGG, DIPI, MII, FVG): the sub-item has failed and Livia Marcia Aurelia is thus removed from her office.


Votes and opinions

Five senators have added a commentary:

  • LEC: ABS. I am truly vexed about this. The attitude expressed in the matter of dissatisfied citizens is questionable. In the future, if she has any doubts about cooperation with "outside" organizations she should contact the Senate. As far as I know there is nothing prohibiting citizens from being members of other "Roman groups". Also, I lean towards not proroging her because of the 'coverup' concerning who made the 'leak',

"If it is not wrong then what is there to hide?" I'm not sure one way or the other, and I see the truth in both sides of the argument concerning her performance.

  • QFM: I realize this is going to upset a lot of people. However I feel that Marcia has not gone around trying to destroy Nova Roma. She took office at the end of my consulship, and I believe she deserves more of a chance to show exactly what she can do in Austroccidentalis. I was upset when she put her friends' well being above the law, but again we do not know the complete story. And it is true that the Senate seal has always been a tradition rather then written law. That will be rectified shortly. I cannot deny her, but I don't 100% believe in her, yet.

Therefore, my vote as above.

  • MMA: UR. I have deliberated long over this particular decision. I have worked with this Lady closely in the past and she has done good work for Nova Roma and apparently for her province. She has established communication lines, organized face to face meetings, and she has made regular reports. She has done more, as a working Propraetor, than

several others who are in like position. She is an opinionated individual and tends to see situations in light of her values and not necessarily others. She has resigned her positions in Militarium and Egressus, without notice, but she has recruited others that were able to take her place in those endeavors. The charges leveled against her in regard to recruitment and security are not clear and lack proof beyond innuendo. She is not a Senator, and apparently sees no reason to support a Senate agreement, but she is not being cosidered for that position. Her familial considerations are in the past for now, and the final solution there, may well come in the future. She is strongly supported by Senators Vado, Fortunatus, Australicus and Rex all of whom I hold in particular esteem, and by several others, and outside of a certain sense of loss resulting from her resignations, I can see no concrete reason to keep her from her appointed place, there being several instances in the past where others have retained and been restored to their appointed places for much more serious breaches than hers. I must say in closing, that I do not care for many of her views, but there are others in Nova Roma, who in my opinion, still hold their position after much worse than this lady has done or said, so let us begin to "level the field".

  • LSA: UR. It is not clear that she has done anything that would warrant removal from office.
  • FVG: ANT.I do reserve the right to change this vote prior to the end of the voting period, pending any further communication Livia Marcia Aurelia to the Senate. I hope she does so, and in so doing, explains her recent actions as governor sufficiently to allow me to alter my vote in her favor.



H. xxxx: Minervina Iucundia Flavia

Results

0 UR, 0 ABS, 12 ANT: the sub-item has failed and Minervina Iucundia Flavia is thus removed from his office.


Votes and opinions

Two senators have added a commentary:

  • QFM: "With reluctance I do as she has requested."
  • LEC: "Dolore".


I. Gaius Iunius Germanus 0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED

  • LCSF: NEGAT
  • LEC: ANTIQUO
  • QFM: NEGAT I have never seen one report from him. I have seen 4 from Marcia.
  • CFD: NEGAT
  • AGG: NEGAT
  • DIPI: NEGAT This person was cast out from the gens Iunia quite awhile ago and

should not be referred to by this name.

  • MII: NEGAT
  • TLF: NEGAT
  • MMA: NEGAT
  • MOG: NEGAT
  • LSA: NEGAT
  • FVG: NEGAT

J. Flavius Vedius Germanicus 11 for, 0 against, 1 abstention - PROROGUED

  • LCSF: UTI ROGAS
  • LEC: UTI ROGAS
  • QFM: UTI ROGAS
  • CFD: UTI ROGAS
  • AGG: UTI ROGAS
  • DIPI: UTI ROGAS
  • MII: TI ROGAS
  • TLF: UTI ROGAS
  • MMA: UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: UTI ROGAS
  • LSA: UTI ROGAS
  • FVG: ABSTINEO

K. Paulus Olympius Gallus 0 for, 12 against - NOT PROROGUED

  • LCSF: NEGAT
  • LEC: ANTIQUO
  • QFM: NEGAT Again a report would have been nice.
  • CFD: NEGAT
  • AGG: NEGAT
  • DIPI: NEGAT
  • MII: NEGAT
  • TLF: NEGAT
  • MMA: NEGAT
  • MOG: NEGAT
  • LSA: NEGAT
  • FVG: NEGAT


Item II. Appointment of new governors

A. America Med Sup: Secunda Cornelia Valeria

Results

12 UR, 0 ABS, 0 ANT: the sub-item has passed and Secunda Cornelia Valeriais thus appointed.

Votes and opinions

No senator has added a commentary.


B. California: Quintus Fabius Maximus

Results

11 UR, 1 ABS, 0 ANT: the sub-item has passed and Quintus Fabius Maximus is thus appointed.

Votes and opinions

One senator has added a commentary: MMA: "With much pleasure and my strong support.".


C. Nova Britannia: Marcus Minucius Audens

Results

11 UR, 1 ABS (MMA), 0 ANT: the sub-item has passed and Marcus Minucius Audensis thus appointed.

Votes and opinions

One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "A hearty 'uti rogas'.".



D. Germania: Caius Flavius Diocletianus

Results

11 UR, 1 ABS (CFD), 0 ANT: the sub-item has passed and Caius Flavius Diocletianus is thus appointed.

Votes and opinions

One senator has added a commentary: QFM: "Flavius will continue on the fine work started by Marcus Marcius".



Item IV. Appointment of new governors: Lucius Mauricius Procopius *or* Oppius Flaccus Severus?

Results

  • Lucius Mauricius Procopius: 10 UR;
  • Oppius Flaccus Severus: 1 UR;
  • ABS: 1.
 Lucius Mauricius Procopius is thus appointed.


Votes and opinions

One senator has added a commentary: *MOG: I vote for Oppius Flaccus. He's no longer interested in the job, and therefore cannot be elected, but I'll cast this symbolic vote to acknowledge his excellent proposal."


Item IV. Appointment of M Minucius Audens as Coordinator Responsum

Results

11 UR, 1 ABS (MMA), 0 ANT: the item has passed.


Item V. To be prorogued, a governor must send previously a yearly report to the Senate

Results

11 UR, 0 ABS, 1 ANT (DIPI): the item has passed.

Results

Two senators have added a commentary:

  • QFM: "While I understand my colleagues' reluctance to burden Provincials with additional duties, I believe these reports are important and will determine suitability to administer."
  • MMA: "Considering the value of this year's prorogation in ridding ourselves of some people clearly not suited to the position of Provincial governor, I think this action is of significant value, it may be true that a word here or a phrase there may be smoother in the fullness of time, but in my humble view the need is here and now, and should serve notice to all that Governors are an extremely important facet and position in Nova Roma."


Item VI. Authorization for the production of a Sesterce coin

The 12 senators voted 'uti rogas'. The item has therefore passed.

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