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Tiberius Galerius Paulinus: New page: Salvete Omnes Senate voting results, 25 September 2755. The Senate has finished its latest session, and the votes have been tallied, as below. The following 15 Senatores cast votes. The...

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New page: Salvete Omnes Senate voting results, 25 September 2755. The Senate has finished its latest session, and the votes have been tallied, as below. The following 15 Senatores cast votes. The...

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Salvete Omnes

Senate voting results, 25 September 2755.

The Senate has finished its latest session, and the
votes have been tallied, as below.
The following 15 Senatores cast votes. They are
referred to below by their initials, and are listed in
alphabetical order by nomen:

*Marcus Arminius Maior (MAM)
*Marcus Cassius Julianus (MCJ)
*Patricia Cassia (PC)
*Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix (LCSF)
*Pompeia Cornelia Strabo (PCS)
*Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus (LEC)
*Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (CFQ)
*Quintus Fabius Maximus (QFM)
*Caius Flavius Diocletianus (CFD)
*Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (DIPI)
*Titus Labienus Fortunatus (TLF)
*Gaius Marius Merullus (GMM)
*Marcus Minucius Audens (MMA)
*Marcus Octavius Germanicus (MOG)
*Lucius Sergius Australicus Obstinatus (LSAO)

Senator Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus Macedonius
(AICPM) forwarded his proxy to Senator Marcus Minucius
Audens.

The following senators did not vote:

*Antonius Gryllus Graecus
*Minervina Iucundia Flavia
*Marcus Iunius Iulianus
*Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato
*Gaius Tullius Triumphius Cicero

"UTI ROGAS" indicates a vote in favor of an item,
"ANTIQUO" or "NEGAT" is a vote against, and "ABSTINEO"
is an abstention.

The items for consideration are as follows:

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ITEM I. Appointment of Aurelia Iulia Pulchra as
Italian translator.
PASSED Unanimously: Uti Rogas, 16; Negat, 0; Abstineo, 0.

*MAM: UTI ROGAS.
*MCJ: UTI ROGAS. I feel that Aurelia Iulia Pulchra has
shown herself to be both skilled and dedicated, and I
believe she will do a fine job as Italian Translator.
*PC: UTI ROGAS.
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS.
*PCS: UTI ROGAS.
*LEC: UTI ROGAS.
*CFQ: Uti Rogas. I am happy that we still get people
willing to hard and "dirty" work
for Nova Roma.
*QFM: UTI ROGAS.
*CFD: UTI ROGAS.
*AICPM: UTI ROGAS.
*DIPI: UTI ROGAS.
*TLF: UTI ROGAS.
*GMM: UTI ROGAS.
*MMA: UTI ROGAS.
*MOG: UTI ROGAS.
*LSAO: UTI ROGAS.

- Citizen Aurelia Iulia Pulchra is now the official
Italian Interpreter (Translator).

ITEM II. Preliminary approval to take Cassius/Labienus
gens reform proposal to Comitia Centuriata.

VETOED by Consul L. Cornelius Sulla, voting
prohibited.

*MCJ: It is unfortunate that this veto has been
interposed. This issue has been a periodic problem for
over two years now, and must be decided. We cannot
ignore this issue forever.

*LEC: Too bad we can't vote now. Most of the Senate
wants a vote, and the outcome would be unclear. Gens
reform needs to be addressed if Nova Roma is to
experience continued healthy growth. Right now we are
being stunted by the inability of the Censores to
approve those applications to gens whose
"Paterfamilias" has either closed their gens or
refuse/neglect to respond to pending application. The
constitution needs to be adjusted to allow prospective
citizens the same chance to have the nomen they desire
as those who happened to find Nova Roma somewhat
earlier.

*QFM: I still feel this is a premature action do be
done at the end of a Consulship. We have not even
carried out the Census yet. I believe once that is
done, we will be in a better position to carry out the
Gens dissolution.

*MMA: It is unfortunate that the Jr. Consul has taken
upon himself to decide for the entire Senate, what
they shall vote upon and what they shall not. The
whole question of Gens Reform should be one which is
discussed openly, and be available to all for thier
determinations and thier vote. Unfortunate indeed, when
a Consul Veto is used to defeat such!!

ITEM III. Restructure annual membership fees to be
proportional to national per capita GDP.
[ As the author of Item III, I now recommend you vote
AGAINST it; we can put forth a slightly adjusted
version with better numbers later. Cos. M. Octavius
Germanicus. ]
NOT PASSED: Uti Rogas, 0; Negat, 16; Abstineo, 0.

*MAM: UTI ROGAS.
*MCJ: ANTIQVO, as per the authors wishes. I expect that
this item will be adjusted and presented again in the
next Senate vote.
*PC: ANTIQUO.
*LCSF: ANTIQUO.
*PCS: NEGAT. As has been revealed...the current
proposal as read is not quite as equitable as one
might think on first view. I am hoping that this can
be adjusted by the end of the year.
*LEC: ANTIQUO.
*CFQ: ANTIQUO. I would have liked to see the proposal
withdrawn, but as it is now I will vote against
*QFM: ANTIQUO. The proposal needs more work. To vote
now, would mean fixing it again later.
*CFD: ANTIQUO. As wished by our Senior Consul. I´m
looking forward to his proposal, and I see this point
as a very important one for our res publica and our
citizens.
*AICPM: ANTIQUO.
*DIPI: ANTIQUO.
*TLF: ANTIQUO.
*GMM: ANTIQUO. I vote against adopting this tax measure
in its presented form but recognize good elements in
the proposal and look forward to seeing them re-worked
into a better form.
*MMA: ANTIQUO.
*MOG: ANTIQUO. A good plan in general, but the numbers
need adjusting, and I hope to introduce something
similar in a month or two.
*LSAO: ANTIQUO.

ITEM IV. Approval of candidacy for Quaestor of Manius Constantinus Serapio.
PASSED: Uti Rogas, 14; Negat, 2; Abstineo, 0.

*MAM: UTI ROGAS.
*MCJ: UTI ROGAS. I believe that Manius Constantinus
Serapio fully meets all qualifications under which the
Senate should approve such a candidacy.
*PC: UTI ROGAS. This gentleman has been with us for a
considerable time, has shown dedication and is not far
off from the legal age for candidacy.
*LCSF: ANTIQUO. My vote has nothing to do with the
worthiness of Manius Constantinus, my vote has to do
with the law and its careful consideration. I am
certain that once Manius Constantinus is of age he
will be an asset to Nova Roma.
*PCS: UTI ROGAS.
*LEC: UTI ROGAS.
*CFQ: UTI ROGAS. I supported the right of Honorable
Manius Constantinus Serapio earlier this year. Now I
have had the honor to meet him in person in Belgium at
the Nova Roman Rally of 2755, there the impression he
made earlier of being a very honorable, hard-working
and capable citizen grew even stronger. I will
continue to support this citizen as I think that he is
that kind of person we need among the magistrates of
the Res Publica. I say grant Honorable Manius
Constantinus Serapio the exemption in order to run for
the position of Quaestor during the next elections.
*QFM: ANTIQUO. Manius Constantinus is a fine young man,
but the Law is the Law. If we do not have the
requisite number of Quaestors, I will reconsider my
position, but we do not even know who is standing yet.
*CFD: UTI ROGAS.
*AICPM: UTI ROGAS.
*DIPI: UTI ROGAS.
*TLF: UTI ROGAS.
*GMM: VTI ROGAS. I think that age requirements can be
waived for this entry-level office, when candidates
demonstrate good faith. I vote to waive them in this
case.
*MMA: UTI ROGAS. Yes the law is the law, but the right
to decide over and above the law is given to the
Senators of Nova Roma, in this instance, to decide as
the specifics of the candidacy of the applicants shall
indicate. This allowance is provided so that various
valued elements may be considered and evaluated by men
and women of honor, in the Senate, who have the best
interests of Nova Roma in thier heart. If such were
not so, the allowance would not be permitted. Serapio
has proven himself many times over, and I will respond to
one Senator that Master Serapio will not be a valued
Citizen in the future, because he has been a very very
valued citizen in NR for some time.
*MOG: UTI ROGAS. He's done an exceptional amount of
work already, is well-suited for the office; let us
not deny it to him just for being born four weeks
late!
*LSAO: UTI ROGAS.

- Citizen Manius Constantius Serapio can present their
candidature to the elections of this year.

ITEM V. Policy on the surrender of elected/appointed
offices upon resignation of citizenship and subsequent
retraction of resignation.
PASSED: Uti Rogas, 14; Negat, 2; Abstineo, 0.

*MAM: UTI ROGAS.
*MCJ: UTI ROGAS. I feel that this is a good item - it
allows office holders a chance to reconsider a hasty
decision... but only once. The 'one time' rule ensures
that this opportunity will not be continually abused
for political ends.
*PC: UTI ROGAS.
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS. I wish this law is binding on every
magistrate in Nova Roma, however it is not. There is
no way that this is binding on the Plebs unless the
Tribunes take the initiative and promulgate this. I
would be very happy to bring this endorsed SC to the
People in my upcoming term as Consul (in the Comitia
Populi and Comitia Centuriata), and I hope that our
Tribunes will also promulgate this in the Comitia
Plebis.
*PCS: UTI ROGAS.
*LEC: UTI ROGAS, though I really think that the
resignation should be effective immediately this is
better than no policy, or allowing things to be held
in limbo for longer.
*CFQ: UTI ROGAS. This seems more than fair even better
that the old Edictum.
*QFM: VTI ROGAS. I really believe resignations should
be immediate, in order to make them important
decisions rather then whims. However this is
satisfactory.
*CFD: UTI ROGAS.
*AICPM: ANTIQUO.
*DIPI: UTI ROGAS This is a fair policy and well thought out.
*TLF: UTI ROGAS.
*GMM: UTI ROGAS.
*MMA: ANTIQUO. I oppose this as I believe it to be
simply a sop to any who cannot make up thier mind to
conduct elected / appointed offices in NR in
accordance with thier Oath.
*MOG: UTI ROGAS.
*LSAO: UTI ROGAS.

ITEM VI. Appointment of G. Cassius Nerva as Propraetor for Mediatlantica.
PASSED Unanimously: Uti Rogas, 16; Negat, 0; Abstineo, 0.

MAM: UTI ROGAS.
*MCJ: UTI ROGAS. I believe that Nerva cares deeply
about getting Mediatlantica Provincia more active, and
will do excellent work toward that end.
*PC: Uti rogas (yes). Nerva has shown dedication to NR
and to learning. This province has many members and
needs a focal point to coordinate greater activity. I
wish him and Mediatlantica good fortune.
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS. I have always been a friend and
support of Nerva. I am glad he has volunteerd to help
his provincia.
*PCS: UTI ROGAS.
*LEC: UTI ROGAS, I've meet Nerva a few times and I
think he'll do a fine job as he is a man who takes his
responsibilities seriously. I don't think people
understand his posts concerning "extremist views",
Nerva never held those views to my observation.
*CFQ: UTI ROGAS. As I have said before, I have seen
this citizen develop and hopefully change. I do hope
that this is for ever. I am not sure however, but I do
accept that he gets a chance. I will act very fast if
I get the impression that he still holds on to his old
extremist views. But, as I said before, I love to give
people new chances, so I vote ...UTI ROGAS
*QFM: VTI ROGAS. I've meet G. Cassius and spent three
hours with him in drives to Mediatlantica. Cassius
like to play the devil's advocate which as Festus a
role he enjoyed. But he never really believed his own
rhetoric, only using it to point out others foibles.
Because he is a military man he'll do a superior job
as he takes his duties most seriously.
*CFD: UTI ROGAS. Not an easy decision for me. I
remember some doubtful posts by him, and a longer time
I considered to vote against him. But I also do not
deny many reasonable posts. I don´t want to base my
decision on things in the past, and I´m sure that he´s
able and dedicated for the office of governor.
*AICPM: UTI ROGAS.
*DIPI: UTI ROGAS. Having met this Nova Roman and been
quite impressed with him.
*TLF: UTI ROGAS.
*GMM: UTI ROGAS.
*MMA: UTI ROGAS. G.C.Nerva has served me well as an
advisor when I was a Consul, and further he has
rendered service on the staff of the Province of Nova
Britannia even though he lives in another province. I
have met him on several occasions and I believe that
he has the best interests of Nova Roma and his
Provincia at heart. He has generated excellent ideas
in the past and I believe will do so in the future.
*MOG: UTI ROGAS.
*LSAO: UTI ROGAS.

- Citizen Gaius Cassius Nerva is the Propraetor of Provincia Mediatlantica.

ITEM VII. Sponsorship of Legio XIV G.M.V. Cohort I of
Wisconsin.
PASSED: Uti Rogas, 15; Negat, 0; Abstineo, 1.

*MAM: ABSTINEO.
*MCJ: UTI ROGAS. It is great to see another Legion
interested in sponsorship. The Legions make an
excellent 'nucleus' for any public Roman gathering -
they please the crowds and do fine work toward
historical education. I would very much like to see at
least one active Legio in every Provincie someday - if
not more!
*PC: UTI ROGAS. I am pleased with what I have read of
this group and hope our relationship may be of mutual
benefit.
*LCSF: UTI ROGAS.
*PCS: UTI ROGAS.
*LEC: UTI ROGAS.
*CFQ: UTI ROGAS. As I have said before: Anything
supported by Sodalitas Militarium is good enough for
me.
*QFM: UTI ROGAS.
*CFD: UTI ROGAS.
*AICPM: UTI ROGAS.
*DIPI: UTI ROGAS.
*TLF: UTI ROGAS.
*GMM: UTI ROGAS.
*MMA: UTI ROGAS.
*MOG: UTI ROGAS.
*LSAO: UTI ROGAS.

- Legio XIV is now sponsored by Nova Roma.

Valete
Marcus Arminius Maior
Tribunus Plebis

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