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	Uti Rogas to all governors. Continue your fine work!		Uti Rogas to all governors. Continue your fine work!

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Tiberius Galerius Paulinus: New page: Wed Febuary 27, 2755 (2002 ) Gnaeus Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D. Ex Officio Tribunorum Plebis. According to the laws of Nova Roma, it is my duty and privilege to inform you about the...

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New page: Wed Febuary 27, 2755 (2002 ) Gnaeus Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D. Ex Officio Tribunorum Plebis. According to the laws of Nova Roma, it is my duty and privilege to inform you about the...

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Wed Febuary 27, 2755 (2002 )

Gnaeus Salix Astur Quiritibus S.P.D.

Ex Officio Tribunorum Plebis.

According to the laws of Nova Roma, it is my duty and privilege to
inform you about the results of the latest senatorial votings.

The following senatores cast a vote:

*Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix (LCSF)
*Flavius Vedius Germanicus (FVG)
*Pompeia Cornelia Strabo (PCS)
*Marcus Octavius Germanicus (MOG)
*Patricia Cassia (PC)
*Marcus Minucius Audens (MMA)
*Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus (LEC)
*Titus Labienus Fortunatus (TLF)
*Gaius Marius Merullus (GMM)
*Lucius Sergius Australicus (LSA)
*Caius Flavius Diocletianus (CFD)
*Antonius Gryllus Graecus (AGG)
*Alexander I.C. Probus (AICP)
*Decius Iunius Palladius (DIP)
*Marcus Cassius Iulianus (MCI)

Senator Quintus Fabius Maximus did cast a vote, but it arrived after
the consules had declared the voting closed, so it is not accounted
here.

The following senatores did NOT cast a vote:
*Marcus Iunius Iulianus
*Minervina Iucunda Flavia
*Gaius Tullius Triumphius Cicero

The votes on each item of the current senatorial agenda were:

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I. Tax Deadline Extension

Senatus Consultum: ONE MONTH EXTENSION OF TAXATION DEADLINE

* LCSF: Yes.

* FVG: No.

* PCS: Uti Rogas. It takes usually longer than anticipated to iron
kinks out of any new project. I commend the Consuls and Consular
Quaestors for their outstanding effort in making this system work as
smoothly as possible. One extra month is not too much to ask. I also
commend all citizens who care enough about Nova Roma to render their
tax monies.

* MOG: UTI ROGAS. This is sorely needed, due to the unforseen
difficulties with accepting international payments from citizens who
do
not yet have "PayPal" accounts. I can think of no possible reason why
we would not want to do this.

* PC: Uti rogas (yes).

* MMA: YES;

* LEC: UTI ROGAS.

* TLF: UTI ROGAS

* GMM: Vti rogas I vote to extend the general deadline.

* LSA: Uti Rogas (Yes)

* CFD: Uti Rogas

* AGG: VTI ROGAS

* AICP: Uti Rogas

* DIP: Uti rogas.

* MCI: Uti rogas.

RESULTS: In favour:14; Against:1.
The proposal passed.

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II. Tax Extension for Argentina

Senatus Consultum: TAX EXTENSION FOR ARGENTINA

* LCSF: Yes

* FVG: Yes. This is precisely the sort of situation the extension
provision was originally included in the Senatus Consultum on
taxation.

* PCS: Uti Rogas. Given the irratic economic climate of Argentina,
coupled with the obvious dedication of her Propraetor and citizens, we
would be unvirtuous not to extend this consideration.

* MOG: UTI ROGAS.

* PC: Uti rogas (yes).

* MMA: YES;

* LEC: UTI ROGAS.

* TLF: UTI ROGAS

* GMM: Vti rogas I vote to extend the deadline additionally for
Argentina in particular.

* LSA: Uti Rogas (Yes)

* CFD: Uti Rogas

* AGG: VTI ROGAS

* AICP: Uti Rogas

* DIP: Uti rogas.

* MCI: Uti rogas.

RESULTS: In favour:15; Against:0.
The proposal passed.

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III. Procedural Clarification to the Lex Vedia Senatoria

* LCSF: Yes

* FVG: No.

* PCS: Uti Rogas. I think this will serve to respect the power of the
Censors to their historic authority over the Senate members (which
according to my reading they did have in the mid to latter republica
antiquita), and their current status in this regard in Nova Roma; by
the same token it will check a certain propensity to 'heel drag' with
respect to Censoral decisions as to whether or not to admit
prospective Senators, making them file a statement at the 'onset'
of Senate votes for these individuals. This legislation will reduce
the amount of time wasted by the Senate, and will force the Censors
to use the authority over the Senate roles in an appropriate, productive
and more virtuous manner.

* MOG: NEGAT. It's a complicated procedure, and I think that our
present method would serve well enough if only it was understood
clearly by all.

Currently, the Consuls and Senate propose, the Censors make the
final decision from among the candidates approved by the Senate
and from those who qualified automatically.
That is simple, fair, and balanced.

* PC: Uti rogas (yes). This is a sensible clarification of a
procedural issue that has held us up for too long.

* MMA: NO; I consider this item to be complicated, confining and
unnecessary. The Censors are Senior Magistrates and do not require
"Leading Strings" in order to accomplish thier tasks.

* LEC: UTI ROGAS.

* TLF: ANTIQUO - The current system is not only adequate, but also an
example of the checks and balances inherent in our constitution and
leges. It rightly establishes a division between those magistratus who
enroll Senatores and the processes that determine whom they may chose
to enroll. This proposal tampers with that balance. And, it would be
utterly unnecessary if our censores and Senatores would chose to
simply abide by the law, voting upon possible candidates on their merits
rather than on either their misconceptions about the law or their
desired version of the system.

* GMM: Nego I vote against this procedural clarification.

* LSA: Uti Rogas (Yes).

* CFD: Uti Rogas

* AGG: VTI ROGAS

* AICP: Uti Rogas

* DIP: Uti Rogas. I understand the objectoins to this but it does add
needed clarity.

* MCI: Negat.

RESULTS: In favour:9; Against:6.
The proposal passed.

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IV. Proroguing existing governors:

*Germania - Caius Flavius Diocletianus
*Lusitania - Antonius Gryllus Graecus
*Thule - Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
*Canada Orientalis - Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
*America Austrorientalis - Lucius Sicinus Drusus
*California - Quintus Fabius Maximus
*Nova Britannia - Marcus Minucius Audens
*America Boreoccidentalis - Lucius Mauricius Procopius
*Brasilia - Marcus Arminius Maior
*Argentina - Lucius Pompeius Octavianus

* LCSF: Yes to all.

* FVG: Yes to all.

* PCS: Uti Rogas. My honoured and productive colleagues in the
propraetorship. All have done well, and shall, I believe, continue to
do so.

* MOG: UTI ROGAS to all.

* PC: Uti rogas (yes).

* MMA: YES to ALL;

* LEC: UTI ROGAS. (all candidates)

* TLF: UTI ROGAS on all counts. It is quite pleasant to be able to
cast that vote with no misgivings whatsoever. Would that my own
provincia had a governor such as these.

* GMM: Vti rogas I vote to prorogue all.

* LSA: Uti Rogas (Yes) to all of the above

* CFD:
Germania - Caius Flavius Diocletianus

Abstineo

*Lusitania - Antonius Gryllus Graecus
*Thule - Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
*Canada Orientalis - Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
*America Austrorientalis - Lucius Sicinus Drusus
*California - Quintus Fabius Maximus
*Nova Britannia - Marcus Minucius Audens
*America Boreoccidentalis - Lucius Mauricius Procopius
*Brasilia - Marcus Arminius Maior
*Argentina - Lucius Pompeius Octavianus

Uti Rogas to all governors. Continue your fine work!

* AGG: VTI ROGAS OMNIBVS.

* AICP: Uti Rogas to all governors. I see among them many
distinguished

Romans who done an excellent job and do continue to serve to our
Republic as provincial governors, which is a hard but necessary duty.

* DIP: Uti rogas. (all candidates).

* MCI: Uti rogas to all.

RESULTS: All propraetores are prorogued

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V. Appointment of new Governors:

*Britannia - Decimus Iunius Silanus
*Hispania - Lucius Minicius Laietanus
*Italia - Franciscus Apulus Caesar
*Pannonia - Gaius Marcius Coriolanus
*Venedia - Petrus Domitianus Artorinus Longinus
*Canada Occidentalis - Ramesa Debrasca

* LCSF: Yes to all. Most of these individuals have sent their request
either to the main list...and/or senate@n... I have gone back
to my own emails and reviewed most of their statements.

* FVG: No to all. Perhaps if the Consul had included the text of your
petitions to assume the governorship in the call to vote, I would have
something upon which to base my decision. But as far as this vote is
concerned, I know nothing about any of you.

* PCS: Uti Rogas. I have reviewed your correspondence to myself
privately and via the Senate and mainlist, and I am satisfied that you
are dedicated and able to assume the duties as governors of your
respective provinces.
I especially look forward to having another governor in Canada.

* MOG: UTI ROGAS to all.

* PC: Uti rogas (yes).

* MMA:
*----Britannia, Decimus Iunius Silanus----ABSTAIN;

*----Hispania, Lucius Minicius Laietanus----ABSTAIN;

*----Italia, Franciscus Apulus Caesar----NO;

*----Pannonia, Gaius Marcus Coriolanus----YES;

*----Venedia, Petrus Domitianus Artorius Longinus----ABSTAIN;

*----Canada Occidentalis, Ramiesa Debrasca----ABSTAIN;

My vote pertaining to the proposed Italia Governor stems from my view
of his unwillingness to deal with other efforts in Nova Roma to promote her
success. I do not care to use an abstention except where necessary,
but in the above cases I simply do not know anything of these candidates,
and considering our past problems in appointing Governors, I cannot in
good conscience vote for someone who is an unknown quantity to me.

* LEC: UTI ROGAS. (all candidates).

* TLF: UTI ROGAS on all counts.

* GMM: Vti rogas I vote to appoint all.

* LSA: Uti Rogas (Yes) to all of the above

* CFD: Uit Rogas to all candidates. Decmius Iunius Silanus made a fine
start as Scriba Censoris so far, and he will be a fine and able
governor.

Also, I´m happy to see able new governors for Italia, our ancient
home country, Pannonia and Venedia, all neighbour provinces to
Germania. I hope that Gaius Marcius Coriolanus continues the good
work of Alexander I.C. Probus Senator.

* AGG: VTI ROGAS OMNIBVS.

* AICP: Uit Rogas to all candidates.

* DIP:
*Britannia - Decimus Iunius Silanus
*Hispania - Lucius Minicius Laietanus
*Pannonia - Gaius Marcius Coriolanus
*Venedia - Petrus Domitianus Artorinus Longinus
*Canada Occidentalis - Ramesa Debrasca - Created 2000/04/17 DOB 13

Uti rogas.

*Italia - Franciscus Apulus Caesar

Antiquo

* MCI: Uti rogas to all.

RESULTS: All candidates are appointed.

VI. Senatorial recommendations of new Senators

I have been asked not to disclose personal votes on this issue.

RESULTS: The following three candidates have received the support from
the Senate:

1.- Caeso Fabius Quintilianus

2.- Marcus Arminius Maior

3.- Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato

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Bene Valete in Pace Deorum!
Gnaeus Salix Astur.
Tribunus Plebis
Legatus Externis Rebus Provinciae Hispaniae
Triumvir Academiae Thules
Scriba ad Res Externas Academiae Thules
Lictor Curiatus.

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