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−	The following senators have issued the following commentaries: ~~Senator~~ FAC has declared about Placidus: "I know him directly, a very skilled citizen".	+	All UR. The following senators have issued the following commentaries:
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	*[CFBQ] Uti Rogas. I am very grateful that these three gentlemen are prepared to give their time to the Res Publica!		*[CFBQ] Uti Rogas. I am very grateful that these three gentlemen are prepared to give their time to the Res Publica!
−	*[GMHF] Uti Rogas. I'd like to offer my thanks to these three individuals for offering their services to NR as Interpreters. It is a difficult, and I suspect sometimes thankless task that is vital for the functioning of our	+	*[GMHF] Uti Rogas. I'd like to offer my thanks to these three individuals for offering their services to NR as Interpreters. It is a difficult, and I suspect sometimes thankless task that is vital for the functioning of our Republic.
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−	==ITEM IV: Approval of the constitutional amendment #1 from December 2005 Comitia centuriata==	+	==ITEM II: Approval of the constitutional amendment #1 from December 2005 Comitia centuriata==
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Senate Voting Results, published on a.d. XVI Kal. Martias MMDCCLIX
A.U.C., or 14 February 2006 AD.

In 13th of February, the latest session of the Senate of Nova Roma
was declared closed by the Consul Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus, in which
33 of the 38 senatores voted, fulfilling the quorum needed for the
session.

The voting consisted in seven items, two of them, of numbers IV and
V, being constitutional amendments, already voted and approved by the
Comitia Centuriata. Such constitutional amendments needed to have two
thirds of the votes of all the Senate, that is, at least 26 votes, so
the amendments can change our Constitution.

Here are the list of the voting Senators, alphabetically listed by
nomen:

*[MAGG] Marcus Antonius Gryllus Graecus
*[SAS] Sextus Apollonius Scipio
*[FAC] Franciscus Apulus Caesar
*[MAM] Marcus Arminius Maior
*[MBA] Marcus Bianchius Antonius
*[PC] Patricia Cassia
*[MCS] Manius Constantinus Serapio
*[CCS] Caius Curius Saturninus
*[ECF] Emilia Curia Finnica
*[GEM] Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
*[LECA] Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur
*[GFBM] Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus
*[CFBQ] Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus
*[QFM] Quintus Fabius Maximus
*[CFD] Caius Flavius Diocletianus
*[TGP] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
*[MIP] Marcus Iulius Perusianus
*[DIPI] Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus
*[TLF] Titus Labienus Fortunatus
*[LMS] Lucius Minicius Sceptius
*[MMA] Marcus Minucius Audens
*[GMHF] Gaius Minucius Hadrianus Felix
*[PMS] Pompeia Minucia Strabo
*[AMA] Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia
*[MOG] Marcus Octavius Germanicus
*[TOPA] Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus
*[GPL] Gaius Popillius Laenas
*[GSA] Gnaeus Salvius Astur
*[JSM] Julilla Sempronia Magna
*[LSA] Lucius Sergius Australicus
*[QSP] Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
*[ATMC] Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato
*[FVG] Flavius Vedius Germanicus

The following senatores failed to vote in this session:
*[LAF] Lucius Arminius Faustus
*[MCJ] Marcus Cassius Julianus
*[LCSF] Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
*[GL] Gaia Livia
*[GMM] Gaius Marius Merullus

The items for consideration were as follows:

ITEM I: Approval of Marcus Iulius Severus as an Interpreter of
Spanish and French.

*[MAGG] VTI ROGAS
*[SAS] uti rogas.
*[FAC] VTI ROGAS.
*[MAM] Uti Rogas.
*[MBA] Uti Rogas.
*[PC] Uti Rogas.
*[MCS] VTI ROGAS
*[CCS] Uti Rogas.
*[ECF] Uti Rogas.
*[GEM] VTI ROGAS
*[LECA] Vti Rogas
*[GFBM] Uti Rogas.
*[CFBQ] Uti Rogas.
*[QFM] VTI ROGAS
*[CFD] Uti Rogas
*[TGP] VTI ROGAS
*[MIP] VTI ROGAS
*[DIPI] Uti Rogas.
*[TLF] UTI ROGAS
*[LMS] VTI•ROGAS
*[MMA] YES
*[GMHF] Uti Rogas.
*[PMS] Uti Rogas.
*[AMA] VTI ROGAS
*[MOG] uti rogas.
*[TOPA] Uti rogas.
*[GPL] Uti Rogas.
*[GSA] VTI ROGAS.
*[JSM] VTI ROGAS
*[LSA] Uti rogas
*[QSP] uti rogas.
*[ATMC] Uti Rogas
*[FVG] Uti Rogas.

Results of Item I: Uti Rogas, 33 ; Antiquo, 0 ; Abstineo, 0.
The item passed unanimously.
Congratulations, Marcus Iulius Severus, Interpreter of Nova Roma.

ITEM II: Approval of Publius Constantinus Placidus as an Interpreter
of Italian.

*[MAGG] VTI ROGAS
*[SAS] uti rogas.
*[FAC] VTI ROGAS. I know him directly, a very skilled citizen.
*[MAM] Uti Rogas.
*[MBA] Uti Rogas.
*[PC] Uti Rogas.
*[MCS] VTI ROGAS
*[CCS] Uti Rogas.
*[ECF] Uti Rogas.
*[GEM] VTI ROGAS
*[LECA] Vti Rogas
*[GFBM] Uti Rogas.
*[CFBQ] Uti Rogas.
*[QFM] VTI ROGAS
*[CFD] Uti Rogas
*[TGP] VTI ROGAS
*[MIP] VTI ROGAS
*[DIPI] Uti Rogas.
*[TLF] UTI ROGAS
*[LMS] VTI•ROGAS
*[MMA] YES
*[GMHF] Uti Rogas.
*[PMS] Uti Rogas.
*[AMA] VTI ROGAS
*[MOG] uti rogas.
*[TOPA] Uti rogas.
*[GPL] Uti Rogas.
*[GSA] VTI ROGAS.
*[JSM] VTI ROGAS
*[LSA] Uti rogas
*[QSP] uti rogas.
*[ATMC] Uti Rogas
*[FVG] Uti Rogas.

Results of Item II: Uti Rogas, 33 ; Antiquo, 0 ; Abstineo, 0.
The item passed unanimously. Congratulations, Publius Constantinus Placidius, Interpreter of Nova Roma.

ITEM III: Approval of Aulus Horatius Severus as Interpreter of
Portuguese.

*[MAGG] VTI ROGAS
*[SAS] uti rogas.
*[FAC] VTI ROGAS
*[MAM] Uti Rogas.
*[MBA] Uti Rogas.
*[PC] Uti Rogas.
*[MCS] VTI ROGAS
*[CCS] Uti Rogas.
*[ECF] Uti Rogas.
*[GEM] VTI ROGAS
*[LECA] Vti Rogas
*[GFBM] Uti Rogas.
*[CFBQ] Uti Rogas. I am very grateful that these three gentlemen are prepared to
give their time to the Res Publica!
*[QFM] VTI ROGAS
*[CFD] Uti Rogas
*[TGP] VTI ROGAS
*[MIP] VTI ROGAS
*[DIPI] Uti Rogas.
*[TLF] UTI ROGAS
*[LMS] VTI•ROGAS
*[MMA] YES
*[GMHF] Uti Rogas. I'd like to offer my thanks to these three individuals for
offering their services to NR as Interpreters. It is a difficult, and
I suspect sometimes thankless task that is vital for the functioning
of our Res Public as an international organization.
*[PMS] Uti Rogas.
*[AMA] VTI ROGAS
*[MOG] uti rogas.
*[TOPA] Uti rogas.
*[GPL] Uti Rogas.
*[GSA] VTI ROGAS.
*[JSM] VTI ROGAS
*[LSA] Uti rogas
*[QSP] uti rogas.
*[ATMC] Uti Rogas
*[FVG] Uti Rogas.

Results of Item III: Uti Rogas, 33 ; Antiquo, 0 ; Abstineo, 0.
The item passed unanimously. Congratulations, Aulus Horatius Severus,
Interpreter of Nova Roma.

ITEM IV: Approval of Constitutional Amendment #1 from December 2005
Comitia Centuriata.

*[MAGG] ABSTINEO
*[SAS] uti rogas.
*[FAC] VTI ROGAS.
The amendment gives us more possibilities to change the law.
*[MAM] Uti Rogas.
*[MBA] ABSTINEO
*[PC] Uti Rogas.
*[MCS] VTI ROGAS
*[CCS] Uti Rogas
*[ECF] Uti Rogas.
*[GEM] ABSTO This amendment was put forth as part of an attempt to rectify
the problem we had with a tribunician resignation last year. However, its
original sponsors have not promoted it during this session of the
Senate, and I'm left wondering if they still support it.
*[LECA] ANTIQUO. This amendment would accomplish nothing.
*[GFBM] Uti Rogas.
*[CFBQ] Uti Rogas. Now the only thing we need to do is to change the law.
*[QFM] ANTIQVO. Gentlemen, as written, this implies that we can change the law
about a legally valid resignation. Since this allows the rewriting
the law & reasons every time we have a new consul, this accomplishes
nothing.
*[CFD] Antiquo
*[TGP] ANTIQUO. The current standard is higher and should remain in place.
*[MIP] ABSTINEO
*[DIPI] Antiquo
*[TLF] ANTIQUO
*[LMS] ABSTINEO
*[MMA] NO
*[GMHF] Antiquo. The change strikes me as unnecessary.
*[PMS] Uti Rogas
*[AMA] ABSTINEO
*[MOG] ANTIQUO.
The amendment accomplishes nothing; it complicates the text
needlessly. You could similarly add "legally valid" before almost
every noun in the Constitution - what's the point? If a registration
isn't "legally valid", then it isn't a resignation, so that part of
the Constitution would not apply. There is no need to restate the
obvious. Furthermore, having "legally valid" and "as defined by
pursuant law" is redundant - what else would "legally valid" be
defined by?
*[TOPA] Uti rogas.
*[GPL] Abstineo.
*[GSA] ABSTINEO
*[JSM] ABSTINEO
*[LSA] Antiquo
*[QSP] ANTIQUO. I agree that the text is better and less complicated as it
stands now.
*[ATMC] Uti Rogas
*[FVG] Uti Rogas.

Results of Item IV: Uti Rogas, 13 ; Antiquo, 11 ; Abstineo, 9.
The item failed. A constitutional amendment needed 26 votes to be
approved, and received only 13.

ITEM V: Approval of Constitutional Amendment #2 from December 2005
Comitia Centuriata.

*[MAGG] VTI ROGAS
*[SAS] uti rogas.
*[FAC] VTI ROGAS.
I think it would quite uncomfortable to by-pass what the Comitia
approved in the last December and I don't see any problem with this
proposal.
*[MAM] Uti Rogas.
*[MBA] ABSTINEO
*[PC] Abstineo.
*[MCS] VTI ROGAS
*[CCS] Abstineo
*[ECF] Abstineo.
*[GEM] VTI ROGAS.
This amendment will significantly ease the duties of the
webmaster, moving us away from a past policy and supporting our
established policy of basing assignment in the rural tribes on
assidui status.
*[LECA] Absto
*[GFBM] Uti Rogas.
*[CFBQ] Abstineo.
The reason we make this change is that some of us want to
prepare a Constitutional change that I am not sure I agree with. Let us do it
the right way instead, let us discuss the Constitutional change first.
*[QFM] ANTIQVO.
Call me conservative. But every time we change something more
problems appear.
*[CFD] Antiquo
*[TGP] ANTIQUO.
*[MIP] ABSTINEO
*[DIPI] Abstineo.
*[TLF] ABSTINEO
*[LMS] ABSTINEO
*[MMA] YES
*[GMHF] Uti Rogas.
*[PMS] Abstain
After some thought, and entertaining the wisdom of those of this
august body who offered their views, I too, would like to take a more
comprehensive look at the full ramifications of this.
*[AMA] ABSTINEO
*[MOG] uti rogas A sensible change, and one that eliminates some 'paperwork'.
*[TOPA] Abstineo. The amendment implicates some further changes I am unwilling to
support. I believe Nova Roma needs full-time Censors and our current
system with overlapping two-year terms doesn't need fixing.
*[GPL] Abstineo.
*[GSA] ABSTINEO
*[JSM] ABSTINEO
*[LSA] Antiquo
*[QSP] uti rogas A good change and it looks easier to manage on the paper work
end.
*[ATMC] Uti Rogas
*[FVG] Antiquo.

Results of Item V: Uti Rogas, 12 ; Antiquo, 5 ; Abstineo, 16.
The item failed. A constitutional amendment needed 26 votes to be
approved, and received only 12.

ITEM VI: Grant of permission to citizen Caius Curius Saturninus to
use the Nova Roma logo, and text of "The Official Nova Roma Calendar" in
a printed Roman wall calendar for 2006 and 2007.

*[MAGG] VTI ROGAS
*[SAS] uti rogas.
I got two calendars myself. This is just great.
*[FAC] VTI ROGAS.
Wonderful calendar.
*[MAM] Uti Rogas.
*[MBA] Uti Rogas.
*[PC] Uti Rogas.
*[MCS] VTI ROGAS.
Congratulations for the calendar!
*[CCS] Uti Rogas.
*[ECF] Uti Rogas.
*[GEM] VTI ROGAS.
*[LECA] Vti Rogas
*[GFBM] Uti Rogas.
*[CFBQ] Uti Rogas.
The Calendar is beautiful, I bought one to myself and a couple
more to give away. This is a splendid initiative, well worth our
support!
*[QFM] VTI ROGAS. I hope this is a successful venture for Curius.
*[CFD] Uti Rogas
*[TGP] VTI ROGAS.
*[MIP] VTI ROGAS
*[DIPI] Uti Rogas.
*[TLF] UTI ROGAS
*[LMS] VTI•ROGAS.
In Hispania we made a Wall Calendar for 2758 A•V•C that was an
example for some students and scholars. This idea is quite good and
deserves to be backed from here.
*[MMA] Abstain.
For those who have a problem with this decision, it means to me
that I am unwilling to cast either a NO or YES vote to this measure.
My reasoning in this matter I should be glad to share with anyone
interested on a personal basis.
*[GMHF] Uti Rogas. Good initiative!
*[PMS] Uti Rogas.
*[AMA] VTI ROGAS
*[MOG] uti rogas. This is exactly the sort of initiative we should see more of.
*[TOPA] Uti rogas. Caius Curius Saturninus continually displays great initiative,
and I applaud him for it.
*[GPL] Uti Rogas.
*[GSA] Uti Rogas.
*[JSM] VTI ROGAS
*[LSA] Uti rogas
*[QSP] uti rogas.
A great idea and an educational tool that will provoke many
questions when displayed in a home or office.
*[ATMC] Uti Rogas. I would love to get a couple of these.
*[FVG] Uti Rogas.

Results of Item VI: Uti Rogas, 32 ; Antiquo, 0 ; Abstineo, 1.
The item passed.

ITEM VII: Elysium Gathering (September 21, 2006 until September 24,
200-6), an event in Ohio, shall be officially co-sponsored by Nova
Roma. Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus, the event coordinator of Elysium
Gathering, shall be the contact person between the event and Nova
Roma.

*[MAGG] VTI ROGAS
*[SAS] uti rogas.
*[FAC] VTI ROGAS.
If the sponsorship would require no money to NR, it's ok for me.
On contrary a financial report is required.
*[MAM] Uti Rogas.
*[MBA] Uti Rogas.
*[PC] Uti Rogas.
*[MCS] VTI ROGAS i vote Vti Rogas as I read that at this point no money is
required from Nova Roma. I've nothing against allocating funds for
real life events, I just ask that should money be required a detailed
request is submitted to the Senate, like for the Conventus. My best
wishes to our Consul for the organization of this event!
*[CCS] Uti Rogas.
*[ECF] Uti Rogas.
*[GEM] VTI ROGAS.
*[LECA] Vti Rogas
*[GFBM] Uti Rogas.
*[CFBQ] Uti Rogas. Nova Roma should be more about RL events and this is a good step
in the right direction! Well done Consul!
[QFM] ANTIQVO. Sponsorship usually means money expended for advertising, and
event insurance bought. Neither is accounted for in the budget I
reviewed.
*[CFD] Uti Rogas
*[TGP] VTI ROGAS
*[MIP] VTI ROGAS
*[DIPI] Uti Rogas.
*[TLF] UTI ROGAS
*[LMS] VTI•ROGAS. I'm looking forward for the Hadrian Wall event of August, which
should be also co-sponsored by NR.
*[MMA] YES.
*[GMHF] Uti Rogas.
I attended last years Elysium Gathering, which included a ritual
to Pomona and a ritual to Minerva, and can say without reservations
that this is an excellent event that NR should be proud to co-
sponsor.
*[PMS] Uti Rogas.
*[AMA] VTI ROGAS
*[MOG] uti rogas. This is a highly visible, real-world event.
*[TOPA] Uti rogas.
*[GPL] Uti Rogas.
*[GSA] Uti Rogas.
*[JSM] VTI ROGAS
*[LSA] Uti rogas
*[QSP] uti rogas. This is what I hope we are about in the near future!
*[ATMC] Uti Rogas. I will give serious consideration to attending if a reasonable
number of Nova Romans are going.
*[FVG] Uti Rogas.

Results of Item VII: Uti Rogas, 32 ; Antiquo, 1 ; Abstineo, 0.
The item passed.

Salvete
Marcus Arminius Maior
Tribunus Plebis