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−	[[Lucius Marius Fimbria (Nova Roma)\|Lucius Marius Fimbria's]] resignation statement was submitted to eight or so of his friends in the Senate and among the magistrates, an ~~established~~ (though not yet used) alternative to posting it on the Nova Roma Main List. ''Senator'' [[Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (Nova Roma)\|Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus]], not having been on the list of recipients, declared it an invalid resignation until Marius' witnesses vouched for both Marius and the procedure.	+	[[Lucius Marius Fimbria (Nova Roma)\|Lucius Marius Fimbria's]] resignation statement was submitted to eight or so of his friends in the Senate and among the magistrates, an allowed (though not yet used) alternative to posting it on the Nova Roma Main List. ''Senator'' [[Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (Nova Roma)\|Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus]], not having been on the list of recipients, declared it an invalid resignation until Marius' witnesses vouched for both Marius and the procedure.

	"Livia" is [[Livia Marcia Aurelia (Nova Roma)\|Livia Marcia Aurelia]]; "Germanicus" is [[Flavius Vedius Germanicus (Nova Roma)\|Flavius Vedius Germanicus]]; and "Formosanus" is [[Marcus Apollonius Formosanus (Nova Roma)\|Marcus Apollonius Formosanus]].		"Livia" is [[Livia Marcia Aurelia (Nova Roma)\|Livia Marcia Aurelia]]; "Germanicus" is [[Flavius Vedius Germanicus (Nova Roma)\|Flavius Vedius Germanicus]]; and "Formosanus" is [[Marcus Apollonius Formosanus (Nova Roma)\|Marcus Apollonius Formosanus]].

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	'''25 April 2001'''		'''25 April 2001'''

−	:''Ex papilio Luci Mari Peregrini s.p.d.:''	+	''Ex papilio Luci Mari Peregrini s.p.d.:''
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		+	''Salvete, vires clarissimi''...

−	~~:''Salvete, vires clarissimi''..~~.	+	I go.

−	:I go.	+	I gave it an honest effort, I really did. First Livia and then Germanicus have taken an active interest in 'rehabilitating' me. I had introduced myself, in a non-inflammatory way, to a fresh crowd of newbies, and was finally (with the encouragement of the Senior Consul) beginning to post to the List again on the topics of the day. Indeed, in response to last week's 'Structure versus Spirit' thread, I was going to publish my own vision of what a Roman organization could be like, at its best, for its members.

−	~~:I gave it an honest effort~~, ~~I really did. First Livia and then Germanicus have taken an active interest in 'rehabilitating'~~ me. ~~I had introduced myself, in a non-inflammatory way~~, to ~~a fresh crowd of newbies~~, ~~and was finally~~ (~~with the encouragement of the Senior Consul~~) ~~beginning~~ to ~~post~~ to the ~~List again on~~ the ~~topics of~~ the ~~day~~. ~~Indeed, in response~~ to ~~last week~~'s '~~Structure versus Spirit~~' ~~thread,~~ I was ~~going to publish my own vision of~~ what a ~~Roman organization could be like, at its best,~~ for ~~its members~~.	+	Unfortunately, Formosanus kind of beat me to it. He posted, to the wrong List, just enough about my ideas (and his responses to them) to make it seem that I was up to something Sinister. This was probably not deliberate, but in the aftermath that hardly mattered: it was pounced upon by all the usual persons and entities in all the usual ways. Reactions to what people ''thought'' I was doing only underscored what I have for a long time begun to suspect: that it is Not Possible for Lucius Marius Peregrinus to function normally as a member of the Nova Roman community.

−	~~:Unfortunately, Formosanus kind~~ of ~~beat me~~ to it. ~~He posted~~, to ~~the wrong List, just enough about~~ my ~~ideas (~~and ~~his responses to them) to make it seem that~~ I ~~was up~~ to ~~something Sinister~~. ~~This was probably not deliberate, but in~~ the ~~aftermath that hardly mattered: it was pounced upon~~ by ~~all the usual persons~~ and ~~entities in all the usual ways~~. ~~Reactions to what people ''thought''~~ I ~~was~~ doing ~~only underscored what I have for a long time begun~~ to ~~suspect: that it is Not Possible for Lucius Marius Peregrinus~~ to ~~function normally as a member of the Nova Roman community~~.	+	Some of this is due to the actions of people who consider themselves my friends. Some of this, no doubt--probably a great deal of it--is due to my own basic awkwardness in social situations. I have made mistakes here, and I have had mistakes made "on my behalf." I have deliberately done a thing or two that later turned out to be monumentally stupid. And I have been subjected to some pure nastiness on the part of persons who were affected by my various lapses of judgement and/or self-discipline. The end result is the same: Even when I am doing my best, my situation can go from tolerable to untenable in next to no time.

−	~~:Some of~~ this ~~is due to the actions~~ of ~~people who consider themselves my friends. Some of this~~, ~~no doubt--probably a great deal~~ of ~~it--is due to my own basic awkwardness in social situations.~~ I have ~~made mistakes here, and I have had mistakes made "on my behalf~~." ~~I have deliberately done a thing or two that later turned out~~ to be ~~monumentally stupid~~. ~~And~~ I ~~have been subjected to some pure nastiness on~~ the ~~part of persons who were affected by~~ my ~~various lapses of judgement~~ and~~/or self-discipline~~. ~~The end result is the same: Even when~~ I ~~am doing my best, my situation can go from tolerable to untenable in next to no time~~.	+	I have been living like this for a couple of years, during neither of which I have been at all an effective member of the community. There doesn't seem to be any way out of this within Nova Roma except more probations, more humbling, more tiptoeing around the perimeter. I do not believe the day will arrive anytime soon when my contributions can be weighed and evaluated on their own merits. In short, I'm not sure I have much of a future here.

−	~~:I have been living like this for a couple of years, during neither of which I have been at all an effective member of the community~~. ~~There doesn't seem to be any way out of this within Nova Roma except more probations, more humbling, more tiptoeing around the perimeter~~. ~~I do not believe the day will arrive anytime soon when my contributions can be weighed and evaluated on their own merits~~. ~~In short, I'm not sure~~ I ~~have much of a future here~~.	+	So...I go.

−	~~:So~~...I go.	+	I am not mad at anyone. I do not hate NR as an organization, or Nova Romans as people. I won't be posting any long denunciations on the Main List. If anyone asks me about Nova Roma and/or why I am no longer a Citizen, I will say that it is a fine concept and it has done some wonderful things, but that my own membership simply didn't work out. (Most people who would know to ask me this are already aware that I am something of an 'acquired taste', so this will not surprise them.)

−	:I am not ~~mad at anyone~~. I do ~~not hate NR as an organization, or Nova Romans as people~~. ~~I won't be posting any long denunciations on~~ the ~~Main List~~. ~~If anyone asks me about Nova Roma and/or why~~ I ~~am no longer~~ a ~~Citizen~~, I ~~will say that~~ it ~~is a fine concept and it has done some wonderful things~~, ~~but that my own membership simply didn't work out. (Most people~~ who ~~would know to ask me this are already aware that~~ I ~~am something of an 'acquired taste', so this will not surprise them~~.)	+	But it's a fine night, with a beautiful sliver of a crescent moon in the sky, and it's the 25th of April, the ''Robigalia'' if I'm not mistaken...a good night to do us all a favor and shed the burden my Citizenship has become to ''all'' sides. Someone is barbecueing, and the older kids in the trailer park are playing on a huge trampoline. I have a Roman vision in my head, and whether I'm going to pursue it formally, informally, or under the wing of someone who knows better than I how to nourish such a thing remains to be seen.

−	~~:But it's a fine night~~, with a ~~beautiful sliver~~ of ~~a crescent moon in the sky~~, ~~and it's~~ the ~~25th~~ of ~~April, the ''Robigalia'~~' if ~~I'm not mistaken...a good night~~ to ~~do us all a favor and shed~~ the ~~burden my Citizenship has become to ''all'' sides~~. ~~Someone is barbecueing~~, ~~and~~ the ~~older kids in the trailer park are playing on a huge trampoline~~. ~~I have a Roman vision~~ in ~~my head, and whether~~ I~~'m going~~ to ~~pursue~~ it ~~formally~~, ~~informally, or under the wing of someone who knows better than I how to nourish such a thing remains to be seen~~.	+	Whatever the outcome, I carry no grudges out with me...and I remain, always, a Roman. I leave it to one or more of you, my witnesses, to inform the Censores of my decision. It's also up to you if you want to inform the populace. Do feel free, all of you, to drop by the Outpost sometime and say Hey. Stay in touch; I intend to do the same--it could be interesting to compare notes. Best of luck, and may Fortuna smile upon your efforts.

−	~~:Whatever the outcome~~, ~~I carry no grudges out with me...and I remain, always, a Roman. I leave it to one or more of you, my witnesses, to inform the Censores of my decision. It~~'s also up to you if you want to inform the populace. Do feel free, all of you, to drop by the Outpost sometime and say Hey. Stay in touch; I intend to do the same--it could be interesting to compare notes. Best of luck, and may Fortuna smile upon your efforts.	+	''In amicitia et fides,''

−	:'~~'In amicitia et fides~~,''	+	***********************************************************
		+	Lucius Marius Peregrinus
		+	Storyteller, Roleplayer Emeritus,
		+	Historical Re-Creationist
		+	and Citizen of Rome
		+	- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
		+	"Is Rome worth one good man's life?
		+	We believed it once.
		+	Make us believe it again."
		+	-- Lucilla, _Gladiator_

−	: ***********************************************************	+	</div>
−	~~: Lucius Marius Peregrinus~~	+
−	~~: Storyteller, Roleplayer Emeritus,~~	+
−	~~: Historical Re-Creationist~~	+
−	~~: and Citizen of Rome~~	+
−	~~: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -~~	+
−	~~: "Is Rome worth one good man's life?~~	+
−	~~: We believed it once.~~	+
−	~~: Make us believe it again."~~	+
−	~~: -- Lucilla, _Gladiator_~~	+


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''Note''

[[Lucius Marius Fimbria (Nova Roma)|Lucius Marius Fimbria's]] resignation statement was submitted to eight or so of his friends in the Senate and among the magistrates, an established (though not yet used) alternative to posting it on the Nova Roma Main List. ''Senator'' [[Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (Nova Roma)|Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus]], not having been on the list of recipients, declared it an invalid resignation until Marius' witnesses vouched for both Marius and the procedure.

"Livia" is [[Livia Marcia Aurelia (Nova Roma)|Livia Marcia Aurelia]]; "Germanicus" is [[Flavius Vedius Germanicus (Nova Roma)|Flavius Vedius Germanicus]]; and "Formosanus" is [[Marcus Apollonius Formosanus (Nova Roma)|Marcus Apollonius Formosanus]].

'''25 April 2001'''

:''Ex papilio Luci Mari Peregrini s.p.d.:''

:''Salvete, vires clarissimi''...

:I go.

:I gave it an honest effort, I really did. First Livia and then Germanicus have taken an active interest in 'rehabilitating' me. I had introduced myself, in a non-inflammatory way, to a fresh crowd of newbies, and was finally (with the encouragement of the Senior Consul) beginning to post to the List again on the topics of the day. Indeed, in response to last week's 'Structure versus Spirit' thread, I was going to publish my own vision of what a Roman organization could be like, at its best, for its members.

:Unfortunately, Formosanus kind of beat me to it. He posted, to the wrong List, just enough about my ideas (and his responses to them) to make it seem that I was up to something Sinister. This was probably not deliberate, but in the aftermath that hardly mattered: it was pounced upon by all the usual persons and entities in all the usual ways. Reactions to what people ''thought'' I was doing only underscored what I have for a long time begun to suspect: that it is Not Possible for Lucius Marius Peregrinus to function normally as a member of the Nova Roman community.

:Some of this is due to the actions of people who consider themselves my friends. Some of this, no doubt--probably a great deal of it--is due to my own basic awkwardness in social situations. I have made mistakes here, and I have had mistakes made "on my behalf." I have deliberately done a thing or two that later turned out to be monumentally stupid. And I have been subjected to some pure nastiness on the part of persons who were affected by my various lapses of judgement and/or self-discipline. The end result is the same: Even when I am doing my best, my situation can go from tolerable to untenable in next to no time.

:I have been living like this for a couple of years, during neither of which I have been at all an effective member of the community. There doesn't seem to be any way out of this within Nova Roma except more probations, more humbling, more tiptoeing around the perimeter. I do not believe the day will arrive anytime soon when my contributions can be weighed and evaluated on their own merits. In short, I'm not sure I have much of a future here.

:So...I go.

:I am not mad at anyone. I do not hate NR as an organization, or Nova Romans as people. I won't be posting any long denunciations on the Main List. If anyone asks me about Nova Roma and/or why I am no longer a Citizen, I will say that it is a fine concept and it has done some wonderful things, but that my own membership simply didn't work out. (Most people who would know to ask me this are already aware that I am something of an 'acquired taste', so this will not surprise them.)

:But it's a fine night, with a beautiful sliver of a crescent moon in the sky, and it's the 25th of April, the ''Robigalia'' if I'm not mistaken...a good night to do us all a favor and shed the burden my Citizenship has become to ''all'' sides. Someone is barbecueing, and the older kids in the trailer park are playing on a huge trampoline. I have a Roman vision in my head, and whether I'm going to pursue it formally, informally, or under the wing of someone who knows better than I how to nourish such a thing remains to be seen.

:Whatever the outcome, I carry no grudges out with me...and I remain, always, a Roman. I leave it to one or more of you, my witnesses, to inform the Censores of my decision. It's also up to you if you want to inform the populace. Do feel free, all of you, to drop by the Outpost sometime and say Hey. Stay in touch; I intend to do the same--it could be interesting to compare notes. Best of luck, and may Fortuna smile upon your efforts.

:''In amicitia et fides,''

: ***********************************************************
: Lucius Marius Peregrinus
: Storyteller, Roleplayer Emeritus,
: Historical Re-Creationist
: and Citizen of Rome
: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
: "Is Rome worth one good man's life?
: We believed it once.
: Make us believe it again."
: -- Lucilla, _Gladiator_