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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Latin translation
From:	lanius117@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:54:56 EDT

Salvete omnes,

Can anyone provide a Latin translatin for the following:

Dedicated to the restoration of Classical Roman religion, culture, and
virtues

My thanks in advance.........

Valete,

Gaius Lanius Falco

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Regarding website
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 01:30:57 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:

> I'll tell you offlist about my family's ghost offlist if you'd
like. Every
> Sicilian family has one I think...

You too? Well, I'm not Sicilian, but the house my parents bought
when I was 11 has always given me the creeps and two particular
incidents down right scared the daylights out of me. I love my
mother, but I hate going to visit because of being in that house.
I'm surprised my mother hasn't sold the place long ago since we both
share the trait of having vivid precognative dreams, but given my
suspicions as to what or should say who is in that house with her, I
imagine she's never been bothered by it.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Latin translation
From:	"julilla" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 02:27:43 -0000


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Roman Concrete
From:	"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 07:03:09 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to the "Roman Pantheon: The Triumph of Concrete" website:

http://www.romanconcrete.com/

The site's creator is David Moore, a professional engineer with
serious interests in how Roman concrete was manufactured and used in
Roman construction. It is clear that Mr. Moore has a fixation on
concrete, but his professionalism, scientific training, and dedication
to understanding this vital Roman construction material is outstanding.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath as Legatus Internis Rebus Provinciae Italiae
From:	"Marcus Iulius " <m_iulius@virgilio.it>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:47:51 +0000

MARCVS IVLIVS PERVSIANVS QUIRITIBVS S.P.D.

I, Marcus Iulius Perusianus (Milko Anselmi) do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of
the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Iulius Perusianus (Milko Anselmi)
swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and
to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life.
I, Marcus Iulius Perusianus (Milko Anselmi) swear to uphold and defend the
Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act
in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion.
I, Marcus Iulius Perusianus (Milko Anselmi) swear to protect and defend
the Constitution of Nova Roma.
I, Marcus Iulius Perusianus (Milko Anselmi) further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Legatus Internis Rebus
the best of my abilities. On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in
the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their
will and favor, do I accept the position of Legatus Internis Rebus and all
the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Marcus Iulius Perusianus


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Mock Elections: Computer simulation?
From:	"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 03:17:17 -0700 (PDT)

Salve,
In a Runoff the write in option should be removed and
only the leading canidates should be on the ballot.
Run offs should be for selecting which of the leading
canidates is prefered, not an endless repeatition of
the the original election.

--- "A. Apollonius Cordus" <cordus@strategikon.org>
wrote:
> A. Apollonius Cordus to Senator & Consular L.
> Cornelius Sulla Felix, Rogator Q. Cassius Calvus and
> all citizens and peregrines, greetings.
>
> My thanks to both of you for pointing out the
> write-in
> option on the ballot, which I'd forgotten.
>
> I have to admit I had been rather assuming that any
> overhaul of the voting-system would remove this,
> since
> it's unhistorical. At any rate I know that at least
> one of the proposed systems (the one which I
> personally prefer) does not contain a write-in
> option,
> and would therefore be immune to this drawback.
>
> So while it might not be possible, as I had hoped,
> to
> avoid altogether having to mobilize the voting
> populace in order to test the proposed systems, it
> would be possible at least to reduce the number of
> 'live' tests required by computer-testing those
> which
> have no write-in option.
>
> From this point of view it would be useful to hear
> from Senator Sinicius Drusus whether in his proposed
> system the write-in option would be removed for the
> second vote (in which all but two candidates have
> been
> eliminated) - I would assume this to be the case, or
> it would rather reduce the usefulness of striking
> candidates off the ballot.
>
> Thanks again for your correction.
>
> Cordus
>
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Mock Elections: Computer simulation?
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:12:54 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
<cordus@s...> wrote:
> A. Apollonius Cordus to Senator & Consular L.
>
> I have to admit I had been rather assuming that any
> overhaul of the voting-system would remove this, since
> it's unhistorical. At any rate I know that at least
> one of the proposed systems (the one which I
> personally prefer) does not contain a write-in option,
> and would therefore be immune to this drawback.

Salve,

While write-in on the ballot is not historical, I believe, at least
for the first election, it is a neccessary concession to being a
modern free representative republic. It gives the voter at least a
chance to cast a vote for someone other than the announced candidates
if the voter feels none of the candidates on the slate are suitable.
It also allows a voter to cast a protest vote when faced with 1
candidate, 1 position if the voter doesn't believe that a candidate
no matter how popular and qualified should run unopposed. Removing
the write-in spot could be considered a form of censoring free
speech.

When it comes to a run-off, I really don't have a problem with
removing the write-in spot. I do hope that if the write-in spot is
not removed from the first round election, that should a candidate
receive enough write-in suppport, that candidate would be on the run-
off ballot if a run-off is required.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Lex Tarquitius Colonie (Formal Request for direction here folks!)
From:	"wuffa2001" <holyconelia@hotmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 15:10:35 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "William Rogers" <wlr107@y...>
wrote:
> Salve Senator Drusus!
>
> Thanks for your good points, and they have been added! :-) Here is
> what I would like a member of the Senate or the Plebs to pass on
> please:
>
> Lex Tarquitius Municipiae
>
>
Marcus Cornelius Felix replys:
Greeting Sir.
in your law you wish to do ( a copy is below my replys)
#8:( so if there are 40 people in a city and 15 say lets form a
Municipiae the other 25 have to go along with the 15?
#9: ok so you can make me a part of a group i may not want to join
and order me to 4 meeting a year.
#10 (a. and you can set money tax with out me voteing on it?in a
group i may not wish to join, but by this law i MUST join even if
less then 50 % of people want to.AND {B.
ok now if you do this in the state of oregon( subspart of USA)
and you set a Due,tax,fee for a Municipiae in said state you get to (
BY state law ,file parerwork with the state as a corp(501(c)3 .
and as a corp asking for money in the state and doing Biz in state. (
my lawery says youy should do this away)
and 11.well I am Sacerdos Primus America Boreoccidentalis, so I guess
i get to do the approval from thing on any new Priest also.. all this
is doing is makeing lots of work for people...
we here in America Boreoccidentalis have meeting we do not need a
group Ordering us to meeting(#9 in your law)
>
> 8. After initial opening of Municipiae, if a person has paid their
> dues
> or just joined Nova Roma, their application to the colony is
> automatic. If they have NOT paid dues, Leadership council will
> approve or disapprove the application. If dues are then paid to
> council, acceptance is automatic.
>
> 9. Members are required at all quarterly meetings, and Leadership
> council must meet monthly.
>
> 10. Municipiae Dues - Set by colony, but must be reported to
Governor
> and Consuls quarterly.
>
> 11. Appointed positions within Municipiae:
> a. Leadership may appoint the offices they choose. but here are
some
> recommendations:
>
> 1. Webmaster
> 2. Quaestor
> 3. Scribe (P/R man)
> 4. Priest (with approval from Religio leadership and Governor
> approval)
>
> ================================================================
>
> I wish to know if this Lex needs to go through the Tribunes of the
> Plebs and the Public vote, or through the Senate. Please feel free
to
> post on this, as I am here to learn!
>
> Publius Tarquitius Rufus
> Nova Roman Assudii 2003
>
>
> Thanks, L. Sicinius Drusus!!!


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Any Nova Roman Trucker's?
From:	"Charlie Collins" <cotta@spamcop.net>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:38:10 -0500

Salve,
If they are any Over-the-Road Trucker's(i.e. J.B. Hunt,
Crete, Dart, etc) that are Nova Romans and come through Wichita, KS let me
know. Contact me and we'll
make meeting arrangements. I work in the Security Dept.
of the Coleman Co.(The Greatest Name in the Great
Outdoors). Please, email if you come through Wichita
and we'll get together.

Vale,
Sextus Cornelius Cotta

Propraetor
America Medioccidentalis Superior Province
Nova Roma


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] CEREALIA CULTURAL MINUTE - ELEUSIS, A CITY FOR CERES
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucius=20Arminius=20Faustus?= <lafaustus@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:07:40 -0300 (ART)

Eleusis Harry Thurston Peck, Harpers Dictionary of Classical Antiquities (1898) A city of Attica, equidistant from Megara and the Piraeus, and famed for the celebration of the mysteries of Demeter (Ceres). According to some writers it derived its name from a hero, whom some affirmed to be the son of Hermes but others of Ogyges (Pausan. i. 38). Its origin is certainly of the highest antiquity, as it appears to have already existed in the time of Cecrops, but we are not informed by whom, or at what period, the worship of Demeter was introduced there. Eusebius places the building of the first temple in the reign of Pandion; but, according to other authors, it is more ancient. Celeus is said to have been king of Eleusis when Demeter first arrived there. See Eleusinia.At one period Eleusis was powerful enough to contend with Athens for the sovereignty of Attica. This was in the time of Eumolpus. The controversy was ended by a treaty, wherein it was stipulated that Eleusis should yield to the control of Athens, but that the sacred rites of Demeter should be celebrated at the former city. Demeter and Triptolemus were both worshipped here with peculiar solemnity, and here also was shown the Rarius Campus, where Demeter was said to have first sown corn (Pausan. i. 38). The temple of Eleusis was burned by the Persian army in the in vasion of Attica ( Herod.ix. 65), but was rebuilt, under the administration of Pericles, by Ictinus, the architect of the Parthenon ( Pericles). This magnificent structure was entirely destroyed by Alaric in the year A.D. 396. Eleusis, though so considerable and important a place, was classed among the Attic demes and belonged to the tribe Hippotho�ntis. The colossal statue of the Eleusinian Demeter, the work of Phidias, after having [p. 586] suffered many mutilations, was taken to England by Dr. Clarke and Mr. Cripps in 1801, and now stands in the vestibule of the University Library at Cambridge. The temple itself was cleared by Sir William Gell, and important excavations have been made by the Greek Archaeological Society since 1887. L. Arminius FaustusPlebeian Aedile

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Regarding website
From:	"Gnaeus Salix Astur" <salixastur@yahoo.es>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:46:03 -0000

Salvete Quirites.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "quintuscassiuscalvus"
<richmal@a...> wrote:
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
> <diana@p...> wrote:
>
> > I'll tell you offlist about my family's ghost offlist if you'd
> > like. Every Sicilian family has one I think...
>
> You too? Well, I'm not Sicilian, but the house my parents bought
> when I was 11 has always given me the creeps and two particular
> incidents down right scared the daylights out of me. I love my
> mother, but I hate going to visit because of being in that house.
> I'm surprised my mother hasn't sold the place long ago since we
> both share the trait of having vivid precognative dreams, but given
> my suspicions as to what or should say who is in that house with
> her, I imagine she's never been bothered by it.

Well; this might sound strange to you, but I have also lived a
similar example.

Not long ago, I was sitting on my uncle's living room with several
relatives. Somehow, the conversation derived towards a room whose
door gives to that living room. I had slept in that room when I was a
kid, and I remembered having very strange feelings about it. I
remembered feeling uneasy when alone in that room. My cousin, who had
slept in that room for years, said that he hadn't ever felt anything
strange about it.

Then my sister explained that she had also felt strange things when
sleeping in that room; in her dreams, she had felt a presence near
her, waking to see that noone was there. Then my other cousin said
that she had once thought that she had seen a hand gripping the doors
hing strongly, like if pulling the door.

Then comes the strangest thing. My aunt explained that her aunt had
lived (and died) in that house much before none of us had been born.
She moved around in a wheelchair, and she used to cling to doors to
move around, pulling herself and her wheelchair in that manner.
She had, of course, died in the room we were talking about.

None of us had ever heard that story before...

Scary, isn't it? :-). A little off topic (although the Romans always
*loved* a good ghost story; ask Pliny the Elder).

CN�SALIX�ASTVR�T�F�A�NEP�TRIB�OVF


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Fwd: Iranian Culture
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Gnaeus=20Salix=20Astur?= <salixastur@yahoo.es>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 22:01:03 +0200 (CEST)

Salvete Quirites.

I have received the following message. Since it is an invitation to
visit a web site that deals with a Roman-related topic (the Parthian
Empire should be considered on-topic here), I have decided to forward
it to you. I hope that some of you may find this interesting:

=============================================

De: "Rahman Mehraby" <info@destinationiran.com>
Para: <Nova-Roma-owner@yahoogroups.com>
Asunto: Iranian Culture
Fecha: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 18:18:23 +0330

Hi,

I have got plenty of ancient related subjects in my Website
I am an Iranian who has been searching for his cultural identity for
years. As I chose to be a tour guide in Iran and worked in this field
for years, I learned how to look for it, because non-Iranian tourists
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Because of the nature of my career, fortunately, I had to do this. I�ve
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A Call for Help
I�d like to help all, as much as I can, to get to this goal of learning
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I need all your helps to be able to go on with this lifetime project.
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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Regarding website
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 22:09:20 +0200

Salve Gnaeus Salix,

> Scary, isn't it? :-). A little off topic (although the Romans always
< *loved* a good ghost story; ask Pliny the Elder).

<giggle> I certainly enjoyed your story & Calvus'. I'll do anything to make
chills run up my spine and to lie awake at night scared:-)
I'll post mine tomorrow. It is a bit sad though-- our family ghost is really
that-- a family member who died and kept visiting us for more than 30 years.

Vale!
Diana

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Subject:	=?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:[Nova-Roma]_Re:_Latin_translation?=
From:	"=?iso-8859-1?Q?sa-mann@libero.it?=" <sa-mann@libero.it>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 21:25:49 +0200

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, lanius117@a... wrote:
> Salvete omnes,
>
> Can anyone provide a Latin translatin for the following:
>
> Dedicated to the restoration of Classical Roman religion, culture,
and virtues

"Dedicata restituioni Relgionis Romanae Classicae, culturae, atque
virtutum," which, by the way, you can read on the Latin version of
our web site.

Ita est!

Julilla Sempronia Magna

ITA EST NON!

DEDICATVM RESTITVTIONI ROMANAE RELIGIONIS MORE MAIORVM STVDIORVM ET VIRTVTIS.

This is in my opinion the correct translation.

Dedicta: it's feminine. It doesn't look like it should be connected to anything feminine.

Restituioni: clearly a misprint for Restitutioni.

Classicae: it's a modern word Romans would have not used.

Culturae: still a word not used with our meaning in Latin.

Virtvtvm: in the plural means phisical strengths; you must keep it in the singular.

Reverenter

Gallus Solaris Alexander

Bononia
Italia


Subject:	Re:[Nova-Roma] Re: Latin translation
From:	"julilla" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:34:48 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "sa-mann@l..." <sa-mann@l...> wrote:
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, lanius117@a... wrote:

>
> "Dedicata restituioni Relgionis Romanae Classicae, culturae, atque
> virtutum," which, by the way, you can read on the Latin version of
> our web site.
>
> Ita est!
>
> Julilla Sempronia Magna
>
>
> ITA EST NON!
>
>
> DEDICATVM RESTITVTIONI ROMANAE RELIGIONIS MORE MAIORVM STVDIORVM ET
VIRTVTIS.
>
>
> This is in my opinion the correct translation.
>
> Dedicta: it's feminine. It doesn't look like it should be connected
to anything feminine.
>
> Restituioni: clearly a misprint for Restitutioni.
>
> Classicae: it's a modern word Romans would have not used.
>
> Culturae: still a word not used with our meaning in Latin.
>
> Virtvtvm: in the plural means phisical strengths; you must keep it
in the singular.
>
> Reverenter
>
> Gallus Solaris Alexander
>
> Bononia

Gratias, it is always helpful for the Latin student to have
additional opportunities to learn... but is Nova Roma not feminine in
construction, and virtues not plural? In any case, I can well see
that your talents would be well used perusing and correcting the
Latin translation of the Nova Roma site; I cannot recall offhand who
wrote the first translation, but it's quite an opus.

bene vale,

JSM


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Mock Elections: Computer simulation?
From:	"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Apollonius=20Cordus?=" <cordus@strategikon.org>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 22:32:36 +0100 (BST)

A. Apollonius Cordus to Senator L. Sinicius Drusus,
Rogator Q. Cassius Calvus and all citizens and
peregrines, greetings.

First of all, thanks to you, Senator, for clarifying
your proposal on the matter of write-in options. That
makes two of the proposals which are in the air
computer-modellable (if that's a word).

Secondly, to your point, Rogator, about the importance
of the write-in option. I agree that it is important
for voters to be free to vote for none of the
available candidates, if none of them are to their
liking. I also, however, feel that it would be quite
unjust for the republic to force office upon someone
who has made the decision not to stand for that
office. This, of course, is what would happen if
someone won an election by write-in, unless the
elected person were given the choice of declining the
post, in which case the voters' protest-votes would
have been wasted and one of the other candidate would
get the job.

Is there any way to reconcile these two feelings? Yes,
there are actually two ways. The first, which I think
has in different words already been suggested (I
forget by whom) on the Plebeian list, is to include in
the ballot a candidate called 'none of the above'. In
fact in my university student union we call this
candidate 'RON' - 'Re-Open Nominations'. By voting for
RON, the voter can reject all the other candidates and
require nominations to be re-opened so that better
candidates can be persuaded - without being forced -
to step up. The problem with RON is that the principle
is not very clear to voters as they look at their
ballot paper, and consequently few people ever vote
for RON even if they don't like the other candidates.

The other way is the one contained in the Senior
Consul's proposal, which will, I believe, be published
soon. It is, in fact, the way Roman voting actually
happened in the ancient republic: rather than having
an 'either-or' choice from a list of candidates, the
voter is given the list and asked to say 'vti rogas'
('yes') or 'antiqvo' ('no') to *each* candidate. Thus
a voter who likes none of the candidates can say 'no'
to all of them, which is effectively the same as
voting for RON, but much easier to understand!

Cordus

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Regarding website
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 22:58:36 +0100 (BST)

-----Original Message-----
>From : Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Subject : Re: [Nova-Roma] Regarding website
>
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> hastur (Linux (SuSE)) - dns, experimental web sites
>
>...and my home machines:
>
> yog-sothoth (Linux (RH)) - router & backup repository
> azathoth (Linux (RH)) - my primary desktop machine
> shub-niggurath (windows xp)
> dagon (windows 2000) - rarely used
>
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Mock Elections: Computer simulation?
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 23:03:07 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"

> Secondly, to your point, Rogator, about the importance
> of the write-in option. I agree that it is important
> for voters to be free to vote for none of the
> available candidates, if none of them are to their
> liking. I also, however, feel that it would be quite
> unjust for the republic to force office upon someone
> who has made the decision not to stand for that
> office.

Salve A. Apollonius Cordus,

I don't think anyone would have hard feelings on the very off chance
that if a write-in candidate won an election but declined the
office. The protest voters would have made their point and hopefully
the slate of candidates would get the idea that they are not to the
people's liking. In reality the only way a write in candidate could
win an election is a concerted campaign effort. What write-in
candidates can do in Nova Roma with the numbers in the tribes and
centuries being so small is block a candidate from taking a
tribe/century and thus throw a close election into a run-off.

Though I snipped the rest of your message for brevity, I must admit I
am intrigued with the potential proposal you describe. If the
proposal disallows for write-in candidates but it is approved by the
voters then that's what the voters wish. While I personally think
write-in candidates are an acceptable modern concession for voters to
be able to express discontent with the slate of candidates, I do
believe that endless rounds of run-offs is far more dangerous towards
creating voter apathy.

Oh, btw, Calvus works fine for me, I'm not all that big on titles and
tend to prefer a little more informality.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Off again
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2003 23:41:16 -0000

Salvete omnes,

I'm off to the field to work for a few weeks. If we have internet
access at our site I'll keep in touch. Take care and keep out of
trouble!

Quintus L. Paulinus