Subject: [Nova-Roma] Edictum Censoricium - Appointment of a Scribe
From: <3s@hsk-net.de>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 01:30:06 -0600 (CST)

Ex Officio

Edictum Censoricium

I. Senator Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus is hereby appointed Scriba Censoris Res Religio.

II. The Scriba Censoris Res Religio is responsible for
- maintaining the positions of priests and priesthoods in Nova Roma,
- checking the qualifications set for applicants for priesthoods,
- keeping the religious webpages, especially the priesthood positions listed there, up to date, in cooperation with the Curator Aranaeum.

III. This edictum becomes effective immediately.

Given, January 15 in the year of the consulship of Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756 AUC.

Caius Flavius Diocletianus and Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Censores





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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Buona Fortuna re the Smoking
From: "pompeia_cornelia <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:07:51 -0000
Salvete Ambrosi et Omnes:

Good luck with your personal no-smoke campaign, Ambrosi.

I hope you feel better soon.

Pompeia




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Subject: Fur Bearing Trout Was: [Nova-Roma] Re: Manusamhita Law (???)
From: "pompeia_cornelia <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:39:55 -0000
---Hey Calvus

Fur bearing trout? LOL.....you know there was an older guy here in
the Sault...very good friends of my grandfather, who made and mounted
those critters, and sold them to many ahh, biologically naive persons....

I am not saying he invented the concept, but he sure added to their
popularity. I can see, though were some people in warmer climates
might think that fish up here bear fur.....

Ahh, you are making me think of him. This fella was one of the most
intersting people I've ever met. When I was a kid, my grandfather
would take me to his place. He had native roots, and you should have
seen his totems, drums, native instruments and art.....awesome. I
'lost' myself in his workshop for hours.

My grandfather knew so many interesting and diverse people. His
funeral was like a meeting of the united nations, he knew so many
people, from all walks of life.

He saw the good parts of everyone. As much as I fear I fall short of
him sometimes, he was such a profound and positive influence on my life.

Yeah....fur bearing trout......

:) Po


In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Titus Arminius Genialis"
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> > I've also read cases where people pick 6 numbers correctly and win
> > millions of dollars. However, that's not my retirement plan. I'm
> > investing in jackalope ranches and fur bearing trout farms. The
> > prospectus looks really good. <G>
>
> Ranches and farms? In Brazil it would hardly make you a successful
> retired.... hehe
>
>
> > Vale,
>
> > Q. Cassius Calvus
>
> Vale.
> T. Genialis.
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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Addendum
From: "pompeia_cornelia <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:40:43 -0000
My grandfather would have embraced the concept of Nova Roma, I do believe.

Po


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Jesus Went To India - Twice
From: "William Rogers <wlr107@yahoo.com>" <wlr107@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:35:19 -0000

Please don't take this the wrong way....but can somebody PLEASE tell
me how this relates to Nova Roma? We have other, more appropiate
boards for this kind of info...back alley, tavern, the other boards,
but we ARE QUICKLY running out of space on this one, so we need to
maybe use this board to point to the location of the data, and place
the main body of info elsewhere...PLEASE!?!

(Interesting points tho!)

Publius Tarquitius Rufus

PS - You hiring there? I'm not a Lawyer...but hey, I can try!


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Attention Voters! Invalid Voter Code
From: "aerdensrw <aerdensrw@yahoo.com>" <aerdensrw@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:02:23 -0000
The citizen with the following voter tracking
number has a malformed or inaccurate voter code:

#237

Please remember to enter your code exactly as
it is given, and if you are unsure of your new
code, follow the instructions posted previously
to obtain your current voter code by e-mail:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/5339

Or you may write the censors: censors @ novaroma.org

Renata Corva
Sr. Rogatrix


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Voting Tribes-A Question
From: PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:18:39 -0500
>From F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus S.F.D.

I understand the historical significance of the original 35 voting tribes and that as the Republic expanded, new citizens were enrolled into the existing tribes. In Nova Roma, do the Censores make the decision as to what voting tribe a new citizen is enrolled into? What if a citizen would prefer to be enrolled in another voting tribe for personal and/or historical reasons? What would be the procedure to make such a change and to whom would you ask to make the change? Is it even possible to make such a change & what are the leges that govern such action? I look forward to any responses.

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] ATTN. ALL MAGISTRATES.
From: "Decimus Iunius Silanus" <danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:21:46 -0000
Salvete,

The Censorial staff are currently engaged in ensuring that all magisterial appointments are current and up to date on the Nova Roma web site.

Consequently, could all magistrates please take the time to check the site and ensure that the appointments of all apparitores (accensi and scribae) are listed correctly on this site. Proconsuls and Propraetors, please also check that your provincial staff is up to date. Also remember to check for staff and attendents that should no longer be listed.

Please email any required ammendments to me at danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk. No need to clutter up the main list :-)

Thank you in advance for your time.

Valete

Decimus Iunius Silanus
Scriba Censoris.



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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Century Points and the Roman work ethic
From: Caius Minucius Scaevola <pectus_roboreus1@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:43:46 -0400
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 01:43:22PM -0500, qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 1/13/03 6:58:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> pectus_roboreus1@yahoo.com writes:
>
> > why, I'll happily skip them if I am entitled
> > to any; despite random sarcastic comments, I enjoy doing this job for
> > its own sake and for the knowledge that I'm contributing to the growth
> > and improvement of Nova Roma.
> >
>
> Which I believe should be reward enough in itself. If one wants to see this
> thing of our succeed we must realize that a lot of hard work with little or
> no reward is the likely prospect. Our reward will be from future NR
> citizens, who will thank us for preserving and sacrificing for this project
> in order for it to be a success.
>
> Q. Fabius Maximus


I have a rule about not creating grounds for future resentment that way,
myself. Future citizens may not "pay off" on that debt, and, truth to
tell, I don't expect them to do so. As well, many parents can tell you
all about "future gratitude"... not a game I choose to play.

In an odd way that doesn't cost Nova Roma anything, I _do_ demand (and
get) immediate payment: satisfaction that comes from doing a job that I
enjoy and which helps in a cause that matters to me. As to other people
who are willing to contribute their time and effort to Nova Roma, I
neither wish to prescribe what they should sacrifice nor try to deny
them a reward if their wishes are within reason (and I include century
points in the range of reasonable rewards.)

If you see the success of Nova Roma as a zero-sum game where for NR to
win her citizens must lose, then - yes, sacrifice, etc. is necessary. I
don't see it that way at all.


Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
...et praeterea censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
Furthermore, I believe Carthage should be destroyed.
(Cato Sr. After a journey to Carthage, the Roman senator concluded every
speech before the senate with this phrase, no matter the topic of
discussion.)

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] January 15 - Carmentalia
From: cassius622@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:53:03 EST
Salvete,

I don't recall seeing many postings regarding the festivals recently, so I
thought I'd try my hand at it...

Today, January 15, is the second day of the Carmentalia, festival to the
Goddess Carmenta (Carmentis.) Carmenta is thought to be a Goddess of both
prophecy and childbirth. The cult of Carmenta was closely connected with
women. It is women who are said to have built a shrine or temple to her near
the Porta Carmentalis at the foot of the Capital, and worshipped her there.

At present, Nova Roma does not have a Flamen Carmentalis, so there is no
problic rite prepared. However, there are many ways in which we today might
honor the Carmentalia. Certainly anyone expecting (or hoping to expect) a
child would honor Carmentis on this day. It would also be good to honor
Carmenta at the home Lararium on this day. Another possible, (although
certainly not ancient) idea might be for anyone interested in divination in
varous forms to ask Carmenta for inspiration on this day.

Finally, here is the 'standard' listing about this day from the NR website
calendar:

"a.d. III Idus Ianuarias et a.d. XVIII Kalendas Februarias (January 11 and
15): The Carmentalia is a two day festival in honour of Carmentis, a Goddess
of childbirth and Prophecy. Into her shrine, it is unlawful to bear leather,
for it reminds death and the slaughter of animals (Ovidius, "Fasti",
1.628ss). The prayers offered to her invoke the mysterious Carmentes (God
desses Porrima and Postverta) who preside the birth. Porrima presides the
birth when the baby's head comes first. Postversa presides the birth when the
feet of the baby come first (Aulus Gellus, "Attic Nights", 16.16.4). Some
interpret those Goddesses as presiding destiny, one presiding over the past
and the other over the future, being thus associated with Ianus to whom the
month of Ianuarius is sacred (Ovidius, "Fasti", 1.65; Macrobius, Saturnalia,
1.7.20).
Today, the Flamen Carmentalis, assisted by the Pontifices, offers sacrifice
at the shrine of Carmenta, which stays next to the Porta Carmentalis near
the Capitol. The two days of the Carmentalia are separated by an impair
number of days (the second day is on January 15), which is specially pleasing
to the Gods. "

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus
Pontifex Maximus






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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Century Points and the Roman work ethic
From: Caius Minucius Scaevola <pectus_roboreus1@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:52:12 -0400
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 01:43:22PM -0500, qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 1/13/03 6:58:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> pectus_roboreus1@yahoo.com writes:
>
> > why, I'll happily skip them if I am entitled
> > to any; despite random sarcastic comments, I enjoy doing this job for
> > its own sake and for the knowledge that I'm contributing to the growth
> > and improvement of Nova Roma.
> >
>
> Which I believe should be reward enough in itself. If one wants to see this
> thing of our succeed we must realize that a lot of hard work with little or
> no reward is the likely prospect. Our reward will be from future NR
> citizens, who will thank us for preserving and sacrificing for this project
> in order for it to be a success.
>
> Q. Fabius Maximus


I have a rule about not creating grounds for future resentment that way,
myself. Future citizens may not "pay off" on that debt, and, truth to
tell, I don't expect them to do so. As well, many parents can tell you
all about "future gratitude"... not a game I choose to play.

In an odd way that doesn't cost Nova Roma anything, I _do_ demand (and
get) immediate payment: satisfaction that comes from doing a job that I
enjoy and which helps in a cause that matters to me. As to other people
who are willing to contribute their time and effort to Nova Roma, I
neither wish to prescribe what they should sacrifice nor try to deny
them a reward if their wishes are within reason (and I include century
points in the range of reasonable rewards.)

If you see the success of Nova Roma as a zero-sum game where for NR to
win her citizens must lose, then - yes, sacrifice, etc. is necessary. I
don't see it that way at all.


Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Magna vis veritatis quae facile se per se ipsa defendat.
Great is the power of truth that can easily defend itself with its own force.
-- N/A

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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Voting Tribes-A Question
From: labienus@novaroma.org
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:55:23 US/Central
Salvete Flavi Galeri omnesque

> I understand the historical significance of the original 35 voting tribes and
> that as the Republic expanded, new citizens were enrolled into the existing
> tribes. In Nova Roma, do the Censores make the decision as to what voting
> tribe a new citizen is enrolled into?

Yes. They do this under the guidance of Lex Vedia Tributorum (
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/1999-07-30-viii.html ), sections I and
II:

"I. The censors shall apportion individuals among the rural tribes as evenly as
possible by the assigning of newly enrolled citizens into those tribes that are
numerically deficient.

"II. The censors may, if possible, assign members to tribes based on geography,
but such considerations shall be secondary to the goal of maintaining equal
membership in the tribes."

> What if a citizen would prefer to be enrolled in another voting tribe for
> personal and/or historical reasons? What would be the procedure to make such
> a change and to whom would you ask to make the change? Is it even possible to
> make such a change & what are the leges that govern such action?

Unfortunately for cives who would prefer to change tribus, Lex Vedia Tributorum
continues with:

"III. No citizen shall be removed from one tribe to be included in another,
save those who are transferred to the urban tribes by their failure to vote in
the annual magisterial elections."

"IV. Members of the urban tribes who subsequently vote in the annual
magisterial elections and therefore have the right to be returned to one of the
rural tribes, shall be assigned to such a tribe based on section I of this law,
and will not necessarily be returned to their original tribe."

So, the only way in which to change tribus is to fail to vote in the main
elections in December, then vote in the following year's main elections.
Immediately afterward, one would have to convince the censores to place one in
the desired tribus. This is an awkward process, to say the least.

Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus



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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] This day in Roman History
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:13:19 -0500
Salve Quintus Cassius Calvus

What would you think of doing a column, for the Eagle, on "This MONTH in Roman history" . Emphasis on the Republican era but what you put in is up to you. Drop me a line when you have a moment.

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Curator Differum et Quaestor
Fortuna Favet Fortibus

----- Original Message -----
From: quintuscassiuscalvus
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:17 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] This day in Roman History

Salve,

This was the day in 49 BCE, Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon and
began his successful march on Rome.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Edictvm Cvratoris Differum
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:05:30 -0500
EDICTVM CVRATORIS DIFFERUM
The Appointment of Curatoris Differum Emeritus
E Domo Curatoris Differum
For their past service to the Eagle and their indispensable assistance in helping to reestablish the Eagle ,with the January Issue ,
Helena Galeria Aureliana
Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus
Marcus Minucius Audens
are hereby named Curatoris Differum Emeritus effective today.

Enacted on the 15th of January, in the year of the consulship of Caeso
Fabius Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Curator


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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Voting Tribes-A Question
From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:44:43 -0600 (CST)
Salve Flavi Galeri,

> In Nova Roma, do the Censores make the decision as to what voting tribe
> a new citizen is enrolled into?

The Censores do the assigning, but it's through an automated process -
no decisions are actually made.

Just before each election, I run a program called "assigntribes". It
begins by calculating the current size of each tribe:

select tribe, count(id) as c from cives
where votercode!='' group by tribe order by tribe;

Next it finds all citizens who have a voter code but whose tribe is zero
(those who have just been assigned voter codes, usually just a few minutes
before, because their citizenship was recently approved or they recently
attained the age of 18).

select citizen_type,id from cives
where votercode!='' and tribe=0 and status<2 order by id;

("status" is active, pending, resigned, etc.)

For each of these, it selects a tribe. If the citizen is an Assiduus
(citizen_type=3 or 4), it selects from the range 1..31; if a Capite Censi
(citizen_type=2) it selects from range 32..35. New citizens who joined
after December 24th are now Capite Censi, where previously they'd be
Assidui. For each of these citizens, it selects a tribe.

if ($$row{citizen_type}==2)
{
$newtribe = getTribe(32,35); # cap cen
} else {
$newtribe = getTribe(1,31); # assid
}


getTribe() begins by finding the weakest tribes within the appropriate ranges.
In most cases, there will be multiple tribes that all share that same low
population value. A list of the weakest tribes is built, and one of these
is selected at random:

# now, select one at random.
$i = int(rand($#mins+1));
return ($mins[$i]);

As the citizen is saved, the population of that tribe is increased by one,
therefore, unless it was seriously under-strength, it will not be selected
when the next citizen's tribe is chosen. Thus, when a group of new citizens
is assigned to tribes all at once, they will be distributed approximately
evenly across the urban or rural tribes, as appropriate.

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
Censor, Consular, Citizen.
http://konoko.net/~haase/


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Remember to Vote!
From: "aerdensrw <aerdensrw@yahoo.com>" <aerdensrw@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:44:38 -0000
All--As of the current time and date, citizens have about 22 hours
left in which to vote for Praetor. To cast your vote, simply go to
the Nova Roma website and click on the 'Vote' link. You will need
your voter code. To get your code if you don't remember it, simply
find your individual Album Civium page via the Album Gentium page,
click the button that says 'Get Voter Code,' and your code will be
emailed to you.

When voting, please remember to enter your voter code exactly as it
is presented to you (ie, with the letters in all caps).

The candidates for Praetor are:

Marcus Arminius Maior
Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus
Gnaeus Salix Astur

All three gentlemen are fine citizens, well-qualified for the job.
Please do make the effort to vote for one of them, and let your voice
be heard in Nova Roma.

Valete,

Renata Corva Cantrix
Sr. Rogatrix


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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] ATTN. ALL MAGISTRATES.
From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:03:39 -0600 (CST)

Decimus Iunius Silanus wrote:
> Consequently, could all magistrates please take the time to check the site
> and ensure that the appointments of all apparitores (accensi and scribae)
> are listed correctly on this site.

There's a new feature that makes this possible - records for Apparitores
now include information on who their supervisor is. Not all of the display
pages have been updated, but right now you can check to see who is employed
by each current magistrate. From the main magistrates' page at

http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/magistrates

you will see a "View Staff" link under each magistrates' name; follow that
link to see lists of Accensi, Scribae, and Quaestores.

Valete, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
Censor, Consular, Citizen.
http://konoko.net/~haase/


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] yahoo - Up to its old tricks
From: "Chantal G. Whittington" <aerdensrw@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:10:27 -0800 (PST)
Forwarded from another group I belong to incase you
aren't aware!

Yahoo does it again...
About a year ago, Yahoo! changed its privacy policy to
an invasive method whereby you were marketed to unless
you opted out. Yahoo!, of course, didn't bother to
tell any of its members that they were selling not
only your yahoo.com email addresses, but also your
regular ones, and made it difficult to get to the page
(buried under two or three links, as I recall) to
opt-out, until a bunch of negative press made them
look like sleazebags. (they are.)

Well, here we are, a year later, and they're doing it
-again-. They've got a "new" privacy policy that
includes "outside of the Yahoo! network" that you have
to opt on out of, or you'll get boatloads of
spam...again.

You'll have to go here:
http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/pixels/details.html

Go half way down the page to see a link in the text to
"opt out here", and click it.

BE CAREFUL -- the success page has one button that
says "Cancel Opt Out", which will UNDO everything you
just did. The link BENEATH the button (sneaky
bastards) is how to get to the previous page, NOT the
button itself.




=====
Chantal
http://www.theranweyr.org

"Yesterday, it worked.
Today, it is not working.
Windows is like that."




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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Gens Minucia
From: jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:15:22 -0500 (EST)
Mr. Richard Wood;

Sir, I have responded privately to your request to join the subject
Gens, and have recieved a warning that the E-Mail address that you have
provided is difficult to reach. I am sending this message to the Main
List in hopes that you will see it and let me know if you have recieved
my response to your request or not.

Thank you in advance for your kind consideration of this message.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens
Paterfamiliu -- Gens Minucia

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Century Points and the Roman work ethic
From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:31:49 EST
In a message dated 1/15/03 6:48:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,
pectus_roboreus1@yahoo.com writes:


> I have a rule about not creating grounds for future resentment that way,
> myself. Future citizens may not "pay off" on that debt, and, truth to
> tell, I don't expect them to do so. As well, many parents can tell you
> all about "future gratitude"... not a game I choose to play.
>
>

Municius, what on earth are you talking about? What future resentment? And
if there is resentment, these people are in the wrong place. NR will
accomplish goals only after people lose this self centered approach of
theirs. To quote a great man "Ask not your country can do for you, but what
you can do for your country."
The reversal of this ethic is what caused the decline of the republic after
the Third Macedonian War.

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] "The Gospel of Corax"
From: jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:39:53 -0500 (EST)
Master Gaius Lanius Falco;

In regard to the above publication, and the quoted note on the book
jacket, I was wondering if a reference for the quoted passage was
provided.

I do not mean to be critical of your library, but such statements do fly
in the face of the known history of the period, and the individual so
named.

For those who might be interested, in delving deeper into this
quotation, the above reference would be significant.

Additionally, my thanks to Master Vibius Caesariensis for his comments
regarding the Silk Road. I have touched upon this subject several times
in my research, and it always touches a real spark of interest in me,
but I do not have at hand the references to get started in such a study.
Perhaps someone on this list might be able to recommend some good
references with which to start.

Respectfully'

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Invalid Voter Code Notice
From: "quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:18:53 -0000
Salve,

The citizen with the following voter tracking codes
has a malformed or inaccurate voter code:

# 237

Please remember to enter your code exactly as it is
given, and if you are unsure of your new code, follow
the instructions posted previously to obtain your
current voter code by e-mail:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/5339

Or you may write the censors: censors @ novaroma.org

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus
Rogator




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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] yahoo - Up to its old tricks
From: StarVVreck@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:25:32 EST
In a message dated 1/15/2003 12:12:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
aerdensrw@yahoo.com writes:

> http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/pixels/details.html
>
> Go half way down the page to see a link in the text to
> "opt out here", and click it.
>

You'll get the success page whether you are logged in or not. Be sure that
you are logged in when you opt out, otherwise its the same as opting out the
email address "Blank@blank.blank".


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