Subject: [Nova-Roma] Oath for Apparitoria
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rachel=20Dugdale?= <livia@strategikon.org>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:19:54 +0000 (GMT)
I, Gaia Fabia Livia do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in
the best interests of Caeso Fabius Quintilianus while
I hold this office, except when such action would be
illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Gaia Fabia Livia further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of
Accensus Ordinarius to the best of my abilities while
following the Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Gaia Fabia Livia swear to give faithful service to
my magistrate, and not to divulge any information
discussed in confidence. I understand that I serve
solely at the discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Accensus Ordinarius with all the privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Lacus Magni for OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
From: Centurion M Bianchius Antonius <imperialreign@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:31:45 -0800 (PST)

Go BUCKEYES!



Marcus Bianchius Antonius
Propraetor, The Great Provincia Lacus Magni


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Calvus' petition: request for clarification
From: "quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 01:00:36 -0000
Salve Cordus,


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus"
<cordus@s...> wrote:
<major snippage>

> This seems to me a very complicated issue, as I
> suspect most internet law is, and it can only help for
> it to be explained as fully as possible.

Since Senator Lucius Pompeius Octavianus acting in his office of
Tribune has ruled against my petition, Tribune Diana Moravia Aventina
has stated her reluctance to make a decision with the absence of
Tribune Marcus Marcius Rex, it is a moot point. I do hope that
Senator Lucius Pompeius Octavianus opinion that the potential
exposure to litigation is so remote as to be negligible is correct.

Vale,

Q Cassius Calvus


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Tribune LPO comments on the request of intercessio
From: "quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 01:06:03 -0000
Salve Lucius Pompeius Octavianus

> So I don't think Q.Cassius Calvus' arguments would ever become
true.
> Given the reasons above I cannot accept Q. Cassius Calvus' request

I apologize for the major snippage of your ruling. Thank you for
taking the time to consider my petition and make a ruling upon it. I
do not take your denial of my petition personally and harbor no ill
will towards anyone no matter which side of this debate they
represented. I hope that you are indeed correct that the possibility
of macronational civil litigation would never come true.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus
Rogator


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Youth Group
From: "Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:04:24 -0600
We need a group to indoctrinate our youth in the mos maiourum. Something like the cult of mithras, where the child moves thru dfferent levels of accomplishment, from crow to dog to whatever. Like the boy scouts or brownies.







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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Boy Scout Oath as an example
From: "quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 01:13:59 -0000
Salve Diana Moravia Aventina

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
> parents. Last week a good friend told me that his new girlfriend
was 'very
> supersticious' and wouldn't meet me because she is afraid of "devil
> worshiping Pagans". Me???? She must have me mixed up with one of
the
> demons on Buffy the Vampire slayer....

Well you do bear a slight resemblence to Drusilla, at least when she
isn't feeding. Fortunately for Nova Roma you don't think like
Drusilla <GRIN> Big Buffy fan here.

Vale

Q. Cassius Calvus


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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Youth Group
From: "Gaius Basilicatus Agricola" <jlasalle@kc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:09:36 -0600
mos maiorum







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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Youth Group


We need a group to indoctrinate our youth in the mos maiourum. Something like the cult of mithras, where the child moves thru dfferent levels of accomplishment, from crow to dog to whatever. Like the boy scouts or brownies.







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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Century Points (A Reply to L. Cornelius)
From: "Spurius Postumius Tubertus" <postumius@gmx.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 21:34:36 -0500
Sp. Postumius Quiritibus S.P.D.

Salvete,

Earlier, the Consular Senator Lucius Cornelius ascribed:

"I disagree if they all get century points, and that is a form of payment."

Which was a response to a message by the citizen Cornelius Moravius Laureatus Armoricus -- Their name and number (call them Accensi,
little elves or "unappointed friends who came to help") is, in my humble opinion, a matter of appreciation and secondary debate.

To the statement of Senator Cornelius, I feel that if he feels that magistrates should be limited on the amount of century points
that may be handed out, perhaps he should take that up with a consul, and not complain to the citizens about what he feels is
incorrect. Too, I must say, that if this is how he feels about century points, perhaps he would be content with a system for the
buying and selling of century points. In my view, this is how he sees what the consul Quintillianus has done: sold century points. I
highly disagree. I fully intend to perform my duties as an Accensus to this Consul, a scribe to the Curator Araneum, and as
Retiarius for my Provincia (for which office, I might add, I recieve _no_ century points). And if this Senator would like to see my
century points removed for my services as Scribe and Accensus, I would be happy to write a check for my points to the Winds and the
Waters. I neither need them (as I cannot vote at the moment, and when I may, this will be a former office, which will then entail no
points, thereby not helping the weight of my vote in the least), nor particularly care for them at the moment. What will I do with
them when I can use them? I won't have them!

In that same response, Senator Cornelius also stated, "This "consilium" is more like an army of clients."

So now I'm a client, am I? To be quite honest, I don't see why Quintillianus would need such an army. And I don't see why any
citizen of Nova Roma would need a patron. But since I'm now a client, perhaps the Senator Cornelius might be so kind as to tell me
how I might repay my 'patron' Quintillianus when we all go to the polls. I know as well as you do that my words don't count for
much, so how might I repay my patron? I have no means now, nor will I ever.

I also have to respond to a question by this same Senator. The question is, "Now, since this is a "consilium" and not a government,
should these individuals be awarded with century points?"

If it needs to be said like that, perhaps our members of the Senate should not recieve century points for being Senators. If this is
how it is seen, then removing points for Senators would only be proper.

Senator Cornelius also said that he held the members of his staff in confidence. Perhaps I misread something, but I got the
impression that he was implying that Quintillianus does not trust his staff members nor hold them in confidence. In that statement,
perhaps he nullified his own statement about cheapening the office of the scribe. In fact, as I understood it, he said that scribes
and accensi need not be trusted. Great way to encourage citizens to get involved in government by assisting magistrates as scribes.

The comment made about supervision too was unnecessary. True, it would be easier to supervise four accensi than twenty-six, but note
that in the edict appointing the accensi, he made note of who supervised who. He really needs only supervise a handful of the
twenty-six. This handful manages the rest of the accensi. Read the edict.

In another message, the same Senator commented, "But we still have not been given a satisfactory answer to employ over 10% of the
active Nova Roman population as part of your staff."

To this, I must state that, during your tenure as consul and during your other tenures in public office, we have not been given a
satisfactory answer to some of your actions. Would you like us to go back and ask you to answer for everything _you've_ done? I
wouldn't like asking, and I don't appreciate your asking this of someone. If the citizens truly wanted to know, perhaps they all
would have asked. I know the Consul would ultimately respond to the demands of the People as a whole. If the people did not trust
him, Quintillianus would not be in the consular seat today.

Listed were the names of all the appointed accensi. Some were listed in duplicate, but in all, there were only twenty-three
individuals there in my count, not twenty-six. I counted it five times myself, and had a few others count as well. Perhaps you may
want to check your numbers.

I have nothing else to say about this, other than my call to the citizens for their positions on this, before it becomes the
position of the minority Sulla always talks about, and not the silent majority.


Vale,

Sp. Postumius Tubertus


Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Century Points (A Reply to Postumius)
From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 22:08:10 EST
In a message dated 1/3/03 6:31:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, postumius@gmx.net
writes:
> I fully intend to perform my duties as an Accensus to this Consul, a scribe
> to the Curator Araneum, and as
> Retiarius for my Provincia (for which office, I might add, I recieve _no_
> century points). And if this Senator would like to see my
> century points removed for my services as Scribe and Accensus, I would be
> happy to write a check for my points to the Winds and the
> Waters. I neither need them (as I cannot vote at the moment, and when I
> may, this will be a former office, which will then entail no
> points, thereby not helping the weight of my vote in the least), nor
> particularly care for them at the moment. What will I do with
> them when I can use them? I won't have them!
>
>

Good, you are a shining example to the work ethic of Nova Roman citizens.
Hard work with no reward. Now if the rest of your tentmates will do the
same, I'd have no objection to the Byzantine labyrinth Fabius created.

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Century Points (A Reply to Postumius)
From: "Spurius Postumius Tubertus" <postumius@gmx.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 22:15:44 -0500
Salve,

> Good, you are a shining example to the work ethic of Nova Roman citizens.
> Hard work with no reward. Now if the rest of your tentmates will do the
> same, I'd have no objection to the Byzantine labyrinth Fabius created.

Thank you. I guess that means I've done something right by you for a change! Nice to know that happens once in a while.

Vale,

Postumius Minor

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Thank you, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus
From: "deciusiunius <bcatfd@together.net>" <bcatfd@together.net>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 06:12:51 -0000

Salvete,

The new year has passed and I discover I have made a glaring omission
in not marking a singular event. Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus, the
most Roman of all Nova Romans, has quietly left the office of censor
with the swearing in of Marcus Octavius Germanicus.

In a quiet forthright manner, Lucius Equitius did great honor to this
office and to Nova Roma. He has more determination than anyone else
in our micronation, and rose to the office of censor after events
that would have made lesser men run for the door. While we have had
our differences, he will always have my admiration.

Characteristically, he quietly retired from public office at the end
of his term with just a brief message. Though he will still be active
as Augur, pontiff and Senator I don't think most Nova Romans realize
the loss to the Republic when his term ended, or the quality of the
service done on their behalf. Censor is the the most difficult job by
far in Nova Roma and is done away from the sight of the crowds. No
man has done greater honor to this position than he.

Gratias tibi ago, Luci Equiti Cincinnate. Ave!

Valete,

Decius Iunius Palladius


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Birthday information , the Eagle and the Censors
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:45:18 -0500
Salve

We do not want to do ANYTHING illegal! But would anybody object, if the Censors gave the Eagle Staff a list of citizens names and Birth DAYS AND MONTHS but NOT YEARS we do not care how old you are. We just want to know when your birthday is for the Eagle.


Vale
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Curator Differum
Fortunes Favet Fortibus


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Oath of Office
From: Emilia Curia Finnica <e.curia@welho.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:50:08 +0200
I, Emilia Curia Finnica (Emilia Finnlund) do hereby solemnly swear to
uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best
interests of Caeso Fabius Quintilianus while I hold this office,
except when such action would be illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Emilia Curia Finnica (Emilia Finnlund) further swear to fulfill
the obligations and Responsibilities of the office of Accensa
Ordinaria to the best of my Abilities while following the Roman
virtues and ideals.

I, Emilia Curia Finnica (Emilia Finnlund) swear to give faithful
service to my magistrate, and not to divulge any information
discussed in confidence. I understand that I serve solely at the
discretion of my magistrate.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Accensa Ordinaria with all the
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.
--


Emilia Curia Finnica
Scriba Araniae Academia Thules ad Studia Romana Antiqua et Nova
Accensa Ordinaria Cohors Consulis CFQ

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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Lacus Magni for OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
From: Krysialtemus@aol.com
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 08:30:23 -0500
>From one die-hard Penn State fan: Way to go Ohio State & Big 10!!!!!!!!!!Dalmatica

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] OATH OF OFFICE ACCENSA MAGNA CONSULARA
From: "pompeia_cornelia <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:45:44 -0000
P. Cornelia Strabo Senatus Populesque Nova Roma S.P.D.

I, Pompeia Cornelia Strabo, Susan Loreen Brett, do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honour of Nova Roma and to act always in the best
interests of the Senior Consul Caeso Fabius Quintilianus while I hold
this office, except where such action is illegal or unconstitutional.

I, Pompeia Cornelia Strabo, Susan Loreen Brett, further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the position of
Accensa Magna Consulara to the best of my ability while following the
Roman virtues and ideals.

I, Pompeia Cornelia Strabo, Susan Loreen Brett, swear to give faithful
service and not to divulge any information discussed in confidence. I
understand that I serve as Accensa soley at the discretion of Caeso
Fabius Quintilianus.

On my honour as a citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome, and by their will and favour, do I accept
the position of Accensa Magna Consulara Caeso Fabius Quintilianus,
with all the privileges, obligations and responsibilities attendant
hereto.






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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Cohors Consulis
From: Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 08:50:07 -0500

On Saturday, January 4, 2003, at 04:31 AM, Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

> My concern is that citizens will be afraid to disagree with one of the
> Cohors Consulis, (a public 'alliance' as opposed to 'secret' alliances
> that
> citizens here often insinuate about) because they are worried about
> making
> enemies of 35 citizens at once or being virtually 'ganged up on'.

Diana Moravia's concern is a valid one, yet I do not believe that NR's
citizens are such sheep. Indeed, they seem in general a rather
independent-minded bunch. I have frequently found myself in the
position of being politically opposed to someone in one debate who had
shared the same view with me in the last one. I serve on Caeso Fabius'
staff, yet I have not always voted with him in the Senate, nor do I
plan to do so in the year ahead.

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Q. Cassius' reply
From: Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 08:53:23 -0500

On Saturday, January 4, 2003, at 04:31 AM, Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

> I apologize for the major snippage of your ruling. Thank you for
> taking the time to consider my petition and make a ruling upon it. I
> do not take your denial of my petition personally and harbor no ill
> will towards anyone no matter which side of this debate they
> represented. I hope that you are indeed correct that the possibility
> of macronational civil litigation would never come true.
>

Though we hold opposite views on this issue, Quintus Cassius, I wish to
express my admiration for your thoughtful presentation of your concerns
and your gracious reply.

-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus
From: Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 08:55:22 -0500

On Saturday, January 4, 2003, at 04:31 AM, Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

> In a quiet forthright manner, Lucius Equitius did great honor to this
> office and to Nova Roma. He has more determination than anyone else
> in our micronation, and rose to the office of censor after events
> that would have made lesser men run for the door. While we have had
> our differences, he will always have my admiration.

Decius Iunius has deftly expressed a most honorable sentiment, and I
will add my thanks and respect for Lucius Equitius' hard work,
intelligence and good humor.


-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Birthday information , the Eagle and the Censors
From: "quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 15:53:30 -0000
Salve Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

> We do not want to do ANYTHING illegal! But would anybody object,
if the Censors gave the Eagle Staff a list of citizens names and
Birth DAYS AND MONTHS but NOT YEARS we do not care how old you are.
We just want to know when your birthday is for the Eagle.

I have no objection to the day and month of my birthday being in the
Eagle. Oct 1 to be exact. As Curator Differum, according to the Lex
Cornelia de Privatis Rebus, you should have access to that
information anyway. My own personal advice is to ask the people
who's birthdays would be posted in the Eagle if it's ok before going
to print.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus



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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Birthday information , the Eagle and the Censors
From: "Spurius Postumius Tubertus" <postumius@gmx.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:38:55 -0500
Salve Curator Differium Pauline,

> We do not want to do ANYTHING illegal! But would anybody object, if the Censors gave the Eagle Staff a list of citizens names and
Birth DAYS AND
> MONTHS but NOT YEARS we do not care how old you are. We just want to know when your birthday is for the Eagle.

I don't know if I have the competance to answer this (or to give such information), but I don't particularly care if the Citizens
know my date of birth. It's not like I'll be in need of changing it any time soon. Pr. Non. Iun. MMDCCXXXIX.

As for the Lex Cornelia de Privatis Rebus and the Lex Vedia de Privatis Rebus, you are entitled to the information, but only if the
Censores deem it appropriate. But then again, they just might give it to you. I'm not a Censor, so I couldn't know. It's almost a
coin toss.

Optime Vale,

Sp. Postumius,

Scriba of the Curator Pius
Accensus of the Consul Quintillianus
Retiarius of the Propraetor Bianchius
Citizen of the Fatherland Nova Roma


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] ELECTION CALL FOR ONE CANDIDATE FOR THE QUAESTORSHIP
From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:56:28 +0100
4th of January 2756 A.U.C.

Civibus Novae Romae Caeso Fabius Quintilianus Consul S.P.D.

I hereby announce that those Citizens who want to candidate for the
eigth Quaestorship of MMDCCLVI (2756) may declare their candidacies,
beginning now, by posting to the mailing lists
nova-roma@yahoogroups.com or novaroma-announce@yahoogroups.com.The
deadline for declaring candidacy is 18.01 AM, Roman Time Saturday
January the 11th.

The following magistrate will be elected by the Comitia Populi Tributa:

QUAESTOR - 1 positions available.

Candidates for this positions must have been a citizen of Nova Roma
for six full months before 31st of January 2003 and must have been
born on or before 31st of January 1982. (Assuming that the auscipes
will allow us to have elections during January).

The time when the election will be organised will be published separately.
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness


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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Birthday information , the Eagle and the Censors
From: "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:02:36 -0800 (PST)
Salvete,
Personally I'm not worried if Nova Romans find out
that my Birthday is March 28th, but I can't speak for
everyone. There are sites that use Date of Birth as
verifing information, and if a citizen has some sort
of account at one of these sites it could aid in
idenity theft. Some are more concerned about this than
others, so I think it would be better if you requested
that citizens who wish to have thier Birthday included
send the information to the Eagle themselves.

--- Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@msn.com> wrote:
> Salve
>
> We do not want to do ANYTHING illegal! But would
> anybody object, if the Censors gave the Eagle Staff
> a list of citizens names and Birth DAYS AND MONTHS
> but NOT YEARS we do not care how old you are. We
> just want to know when your birthday is for the
> Eagle.
>
>
> Vale
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> Curator Differum
> Fortunes Favet Fortibus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


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L. Sicinius Drusus

Roman Citizen

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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Birthday information , the Eagle and the Censors
From: "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:11:15 -0500
Salve L. Sicinius Drusus is right. If you would like your name listed on the Birthday roster in the January Eagle please send me an E-mail today.

Vale

Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
From: L. Sicinius Drusus
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:03 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Birthday information , the Eagle and the Censors

Salvete,
Personally I'm not worried if Nova Romans find out
that my Birthday is March 28th, but I can't speak for
everyone. There are sites that use Date of Birth as
verifing information, and if a citizen has some sort
of account at one of these sites it could aid in
idenity theft. Some are more concerned about this than
others, so I think it would be better if you requested
that citizens who wish to have thier Birthday included
send the information to the Eagle themselves.

--- Stephen Gallagher <spqr753@msn.com> wrote:
> Salve
>
> We do not want to do ANYTHING illegal! But would
> anybody object, if the Censors gave the Eagle Staff
> a list of citizens names and Birth DAYS AND MONTHS
> but NOT YEARS we do not care how old you are. We
> just want to know when your birthday is for the
> Eagle.
>
>
> Vale
> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
> Curator Differum
> Fortunes Favet Fortibus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


=====
L. Sicinius Drusus

Roman Citizen

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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Birthday information , the Eagle and the Censors
From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:36:20 EST
In a message dated 1/4/03 7:54:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, richmal@attbi.com
writes:


> I have no objection to the day and month of my birthday being in the
> Eagle. Oct 1 to be exact

Really? Mine as well...

Q. Fabius Maximus


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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Thank you, Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus
From: Fortunatus <labienus@novaroma.org>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 12:42:22 -0600
Salvete

> Gratias tibi ago, Luci Equiti Cincinnate. Ave!

Iterum in me! L Equitius has done exemplary work for the Res Publica,
and we have often come to see the wisdom of ideas that he presented well
before they were popular. I wish him luck in all his endeavors, knowing
he won't need it.

Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus
--
"Since death alone is certain and the time of death uncertain, what
should I do?"


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Birthday information , the Eagle and the Censors
From: "deciusiunius <bcatfd@together.net>" <bcatfd@together.net>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 20:03:50 -0000
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
<lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> Salvete,
> Personally I'm not worried if Nova Romans find out
> that my Birthday is March 28th, but I can't speak for
> everyone. There are sites that use Date of Birth as
> verifing information, and if a citizen has some sort
> of account at one of these sites it could aid in
> idenity theft. Some are more concerned about this than
> others, so I think it would be better if you requested
> that citizens who wish to have thier Birthday included
> send the information to the Eagle themselves.

Salve,

Perhaps then just the month of the citizen's birthday could be
listed? All the birthdays of the month could be listed without the
day of birth.

Vale,

Decius Iunius Palladius


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Thank You Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus
From: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 21:30:06 +0100
Salve Illustrus Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus!

As the Consul holding the fasces I want to publicly thank You for
your formidable work for Nova Roma and especially your Censorship the
two last years.

In the name of the Roman people, the Senate and the whole Res
Publica, thank You very much!
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
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Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness


Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Birthday information , the Eagle and the Censors
From: "metamorphosis2003 <metamorphosis2003@yahoo.ca>" <metamorphosis2003@yahoo.ca>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 21:59:04 -0000
---Salvete Omnes:

I like this idea of Senator Palladius. I agree with his
rationale: 'safe' celebration. Too much on line and elsewhere is
linked to a person's day/year of birth.

Po


In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "deciusiunius <bcatfd@t...>"
<bcatfd@t...> wrote:
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
> <lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> > Salvete,
> > Personally I'm not worried if Nova Romans find out
> > that my Birthday is March 28th, but I can't speak for
> > everyone. There are sites that use Date of Birth as
> > verifing information, and if a citizen has some sort
> > of account at one of these sites it could aid in
> > idenity theft. Some are more concerned about this than
> > others, so I think it would be better if you requested
> > that citizens who wish to have thier Birthday included
> > send the information to the Eagle themselves.
>
> Salve,
>
> Perhaps then just the month of the citizen's birthday could be
> listed? All the birthdays of the month could be listed without the
> day of birth.
>
> Vale,
>
> Decius Iunius Palladius


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] To Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
From: "metamorphosis2003 <metamorphosis2003@yahoo.ca>" <metamorphosis2003@yahoo.ca>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 22:14:37 -0000
P. Cornelia Omnibus:

I am pleased with the legal manner in which the recent petition has
been dealt with my Lucius Pompeius Tribunus.

We all 'hesitate' to deal with these matters (trust me, I know :)),
but nonetheless the tribs have been petitioned, and the citizen
issuing the petition is entitled to a duly lawful and official answer
by the Tribunes. You have replied in a lawful, proper and objective
manner. I commend you for formally answering Calvus as opposed to
offering an unofficial and hypothetical opinion.

Whether the petition was issued publicly or privately is beside the
point, and herein we are discussing 'etiquette' and not law.

As for your rationale in this situation, I pretty much agree with
you, Luci Pompei, although we need to be wary of potential
situations, in any case. Some are worse than others in their
possibility of setting undesirable precedents.

Impuberes, as I see it, are in Nova Roma with their parents written
position. That they hold an advisory position does not pose any legal
threat to Nova Roma.

I nonetheless thank Cassius Calvus for his diligence and concern in
this area.

I also thank Caeso Fabius Consul for providing those under 18 who
have shown responsibility and earnestness in working with him, the
opportunity to serve in an officially recognized capacity.


No harm, no foul.

Pompeia





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Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Birthday information , the Eagle and the Censors
From: Centurion M Bianchius Antonius <imperialreign@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:33:10 -0800 (PST)

I don't mind....use my birthday....but everyone seems to be overlooking the real important birthday question. If we give you are birthdays...do we get presents from everyone?!




Marcus Bianchius Antonius
Propraetor, The Great Provincia Lacus Magni


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