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Salvete omnes I am trying to find out what kind of leather the Romans used for making various articles of clothing and accesories. Can anyone enlighten me? Valete, Gaius Lanius Falco |
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Ave Senator, Well, this is ultimately an issue each one of us must deal with on our own. G-d knows in the past I would have acted very emotionally and rashly to the words of Senator Audens, but I am trying to adopt the approach that if I have nothing nice to say I simply wont post. I think that is something that those of us who react harshly, emotionally and not rationally should adopt. I also seek advice from my friends, gens and people I trust to review a post I am about to make tin order to prevent that post from being construed in a way I do not want it too or intend. Additionally, if we hear something (rumors, innuendo, etc) but we hear it from a third party and not from the person directly, take it solely as a rumor (ie. a grain of salt) and do not put any faith in it. And, do not post that rumor on the ML. Finally, if you believe something to be true, but have not confirmed it, please do not post it. Because you could be wrong and if it happens to be false your own dignitas will suffer. And, as a result of that false accusation NR could suffer as well. This is what I try. I hope this might help others. Respectfully, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix ----- Original Message ----- From: pjane To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 3:20 PM Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Freedom of Speech > Look, instead of trying to think about relocating our incorporation, why dont we attempt to NOT create the problem in the first place. An ounce of prevention, you know? > An excellent approach, Lucius Cornelius. Have you any ideas on how to accomplish this? I'm sure a simple change in list policy would be easy enough to achieve. Patricia Cassia To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D. Avete, Quirites, during the next Ludi Victoriae you could show your military skills. Please, imagine to be an importan ancient Roman captain driving your brave Army against the terrible Punian Army of Hannibal.... What you should do? How you attack Carthago's Army and how you defense your lines? In this new Contest by Cohors Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus you could change the final of the famous lost battle in Canne at 216 B.C. Keep attenction, this is an experimental Award and we are happy to recive suggestions and opinion to improve it. The rules are published too at http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/victoria/military_award.htm . Here you can see and download the map pf the field. REGULATION 1) The "Ludi Victoriae Military Award" (LMCA) is a military tactics contest supported by Nova Roma and organized by the Cohors Aedilis of Senior Curule Aedile Caeso Fabius Quintilianus. It is open to all the citizens of Nova Roma. The task of the contest is to organize the defense of Rome in the famous battle of Canne against the Army of Carthago (216 b.C.). We know how finish this famous battle: the Consuls Terentius Varrone and Emilius Paulus lost because taken by the "funnel" of Carthago. It was our greatest defeat ... ! Now you have the possibility to change the history and show your skills as soldier. 2) This is the situation on the field in the start of the battle. As we can see, there is in the bottom of the picture the enemy's army, the soldiers of Carthago and african alleated. On the top there is the Roman Army. You have 6 miltary units with different Speed and Power: - 1 line of Velites [Speed 3 - Power 2 = 5] - 1 Roman Cavalry [S4 - P2 = 6] - 1 Allied Cavalry [S5 - P3 = 7] - 1 Roman Legion [S1 - P5 = 6] - 2 Allied Alae Sociorum [S1 - P3 = 4] x 2 = 8 ... againt 6 units of the Carthago's Army: - 1 line of light infantry [Speed 3 - Power 1 = 4] - 2 African Phalanx [S1 - P4 = 5] = 10 - 1 Numidian Cavalry [S5 - P3 = 8] - 1 Celtic-Iberian Cavalry [S3 - P3 = 6] - 1 Celtic-Iberian Infantry [S1 - P3 = 4] [map 1] In the following two pictures there is the tactic used by Hannibal against the roman Consuls. As you can see the african Army moved the Phalanxs back the cavalry and after create a funnel with the Infantry. The two Cavalries had the function to push the enemy's units in this funnel. [map 2 and 3] 3) What is your target? Each player of this Award must to create a new tactic for the Roman Army using some of every units [Cavalry (roman and allied), the legiones and the line of Maniples]. The partecipant have to projecting useful mouvements for the units thinking about the power ans speed of each unit. Each player can take these images to complete the battle's schedule. 4) The Award is open to single participants or to groups composed of a maximum of 5 citizens. Each participant or group of participants can participate with just _one_ work. It isn't allowed to be a member of a group and participate as a individual at the same time. The contributed work must be in English, with a maximum of 500 words, also within pictures and/or movies. 5) The text can be sended in this formats: .html, .doc, .txt. The images can be jpgs, gifs, tifs or bmps. The movies can be developed in Flash, Shockwave, Director or Mpeg. 6) Each text must have the following facts about the participant(s): Nova Roman name, real name, Nova Roman Province, e-mail address. 7) The deadline to send own work is October 16, 2002 (2755 a.u.c.), by e-mail to sacro_barese_impero@libero.it [Franciscus Apulus Caesar] with the subject "LMCA". 8) The texts will judged by a Jury composed by the four higher Nova Roman experts of military arts. Each judge in the jury shall value each work following this table of judgement: - Tactic (0-10 points) - How many units have been used (0-5 points: 5 if using only one unit, 4 if using 2 units, etc....) - Efficacy of the units (Power+Speed) - Military Language (0-5 points) - Hypothetic result (0-5 points) 8 a) The points from all judges are summarized and this sum will decide who will win. 8 b) The judgements of the jury are un-impugnable. 9) The tactic winner of the Victoriae Military Award will be published at the Cohors Aedilis Website - Section Ludi and at the Main Mailing List of Nova Roma and as a virtual Diploma. 10) The texts and all the materials will be archived by the Ludi organization. The participants give the copyrights of their text to Nova Roma accepting this regulation. This Regulation is accepted by taking part of the "the Ludi Victoriae Military Award" (LMCA). 11) The winner shall be announced on the Cohors Aedilis Website - Section Ludi and at the Nova Roman Main Mailing List at October 20, 2002. Informations: - Victoriae c/o Cohors Aedilis - Section Ludi: http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/victoriae/ - Senior Curule Aedile Caeso Fabius Quintilianus: tjalens.h@telia.com - Quaestor Franciscus Apulus Caesar: sacro_barese_impero@libero.it Valete Franciscus Apulus Caesar ------------------------------------------- Propraetor Provinciae Italiae Quaestor Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus Scriba Curatoris Araneum ------------------------------------------- Provincia Italia - http://italia.novaroma.org Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it Cohors Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus - http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis Web Nova Roman Experiments - http://lab.novaroma.org/wnre |
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Pro. Postumius Nero Quiritibus Iurisconsultisque S.P.D. Salvete, This is perhaps an odd inquisition, I know, but I have a few questions that maybe some of you could help me with. I have come to understand all of you here to be intelligent persons with great command of the arts with you all have so magnanamously undertaken, so for those of you whose arts these may concern, I ask these few things. First: Does anyone know of any good sources for the current American and International legislation regarding "Internet Auctioneering" and other related topics. I have searched this with the trusty Internet many times, however everything I have found has given me a dead end. Second: Were it made available, who of you would purchase, perhaps, texts of ancient writers that were bound between two wood boards (for hardness) covered in leather (most likely artificial), on tinted paper (with the 'aged' look and feel) held together by three (more or less) strands of sinew or some type of ancient string? It's an idea I had for raising money for the Land Project, so I'd like the public opinion. Third: I've also thought about customizable Nova Roma merchandise. Something I'll most likely have to run past the Senate before anything is official, I'd still like the public opinion on things. So what do you think? T-shirts? Paperweights? Nameplates? Pens? Pencils? Etc? Anything. For those of you that are shy, and I know there are some, just send it to me personally (I'm over at postumius@gmx.net), but I'm truly interested to know. Well, good friends, that's all I have for now. If there's anything else anyone has to add to the Land Project, you can find us over at NRLandProject@yahoogroups.com, or just talk to some of the good folks over there such as myself, Senator Audens, the good Sextus Apollonius Scipio, or even the greatly talented Manius Constantinus Serapio, to name a small few. And as I always say, my ears are always listening, my eyes always reading, my mouth always responding (when prompted), and my words always true. If you need me for anything, just ring me up! Optime Valete in Pace Sui Aeterna, Pro. Postumius Nero [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Salvete, Mostly goat and calf hide from what I've seen but try our Legio XX website http://www.larp.com/legioxx/leather.html and also contact the RomanArmy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Bonam Fortunam. Valete, Lucius Equitius > Message: 22 > Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 00:07:03 -0000 > From: "gaius117" <lanius117@aol.com> > Subject: Roman leather > > Salvete omnes > > I am trying to find out what kind of leather the Romans used for > making various articles of clothing and accesories. Can anyone > enlighten me? > > Valete, > > Gaius Lanius Falco |
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WHEREAS the citizens of Provinica Mediatlantica who subscribed to the provincial mailing list have had the opportunity to vote in a Poll for three Roman deities to be the Patron Deities of our Province, and, WHEREAS the Poll is now concluded and the results recorded, THEREFORE, it is my pleasure as Propraetor of Provinca Mediatlantica to proclaim the Patron Deities of this Province are: JUPITER OPTIMUS MAXIMUS MINERVA APOLLO Proclaimed on this date, pridie Non. OCTOBRAS MMDCCLV a.u.c. (6 October 2002) Signed, GAIUS CASSIUS NERVA Propraetor, Mediatlantica |
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Proculus Postumius Nero wrote: > Salve Ms. Johnston, > > I thank you for your reference to my longwinded statements to the People, of > which I consider you a part. I must say that I could and do agree with your > suggestion, which then makes it more understood to the People exactly what > the Praetors would consider permissible with regards to certain rights and > legislation, should it ever be brought before their courts. I should hope > your posting reaches both the Praetors, as well as those who shall be > campaigning for the Praetorship of next year. I think this will be a tool > both for currently serving and future Praetors, and sets a good example for > others to follow. Many thanks for your kind words. I'm glad to be able to make a contribution. > (Note: I only use the name by which you send your messages above due to the > fact that I, unfortunately, am ignorant of your Roman name, duly noting that > you are not yet a citizen.) That seems only fair. I haven't been using a Roman name because it seemed presumptuous to do so before the Censors have approved my application for citizenship, but if they do you may look for me under the name of Aulus Cremutius Cordus. The endings are masculine, and so am I, but I understand the reason for your assumption to the contrary. If I correctly take you to be the Proculus Postumius Nero Drusus Sepulchratus listed in the Album of Citizens, then you're from the US, where Jamie is a feminine name, but in the UK it is a diminutive of James deriving from Scotland. :) Jamie www.strategikon.org --------------------------------- Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Salvete novoromani! I am a 15 year old boy from Brazil and I just love Nova Roman ideas. So, I entered on this email list to learn more about it. I am trying to convince my parents to allow me to be a Nova Roman citizen (once I am not yet 18, I have to have their authorization, right?) and while I don't get my citizenship, I'll learn as much as I can by sharing experiences with all you novoromani. I am also working with Imperium of Lucius Arminius Faustus on the translation of the main site into Portuguese and soonly you all will can see published there some of my works. If someone would like to talk to me, can either send me emails to tggenialis@yahoo.com.br or add me to your ICQ list (my number is 75873373). Valete! Titus Genialis. Nova Roma lover (soon citizen) Interpreter into Portuguese with Imperium of L. A. Faustus. tggenialis@yahoo.com.br / ICQ 75873373 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Mensagem enviada está livre de vírus. Enviada por GNBS através do MSO2K. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.391 / Virus Database: 222 - Release Date: 19/9/2002 _______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! GeoCities Tudo para criar o seu site: ferramentas fáceis de usar, espaço de sobra e acessórios. http://br.geocities.yahoo.com/ |
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Salve! I would purchase roman books which are made like roman books, i.e. a roll of papyrus with of wooden stacke at one or two ends. If I could afford them. Text should be written in roman handwriting. I think another way to raise money would be proper organized roman festivals. An Item that could be great for sale might be a NR ring, I think. Vale, Caius Tarquitius Saturninus. -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Günstige DSL- & Modem/ISDN-Tarife! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 08:34:06PM -0400, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com wrote: Salve, F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus - > From F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus to C. Municius Scaevola & other citizens > of NR. Salvete. > > NR is based on the human condition and, as such, represents a cross section > of the citizens of the world rather than just a single cultural or interested > point of view. For someone who is primarily interested in military or > culinary pursuits, many of the threads seem pointless, political, > impractical, and unpleasant but not so for those involved in those threads. <Nod> Agreed! There is indeed a broad range of interests here - in fact, I am delighted to see how broad a range, since many of the topics that have come up have interested, intrigued, and informed me well past my original levels of expectation. As well, there are a number of topics that fail to engage my attention, or that I find unpleasant. As in /antiquita/, however, I (and any others so affected) can always walk away from a specific discussion. The "Delete" key and killfiles/filters are a modern equivalent, perhaps even superior to the old method: no one can run after you and pluck your sleeve. + Is it not the beauty of an asynchronous form of discussion that one can + go and make cups of tea, floss the cat, fluff the geraniums, open the + kitchen window and scream out it with operatic force, volume, and decorum, + and then return to the vexed glowing letters calmer of mind and soul? + -- The Cube, <forum3000.org> That is yet another benefit. :) > I am sure that many Romans in Antiquity found the political fencing and > bickering of their fellow citizens to be so much humbug. I will be the first > to admit that we have a few out-and-out lunatics, overbearing Conscript > Fathers, and overly-wordy plebians (se moi?) on this list. <chuckle> I cannot _possibly_ imagine to whom you're referring, in any of those (purely hypothetical, I'm sure!) examples. > I do not agree > with everything that is said and I attempt to avoid those threads that do not > interest me. Try opening a discussion on a subject that is near and dear to > you so that we can experience more diversity from our citizens. Interestingly enough, I find that the issues relating to freedom of communication within NovaRoma do indeed affect me. I can ignore them, as can everyone... /cui bono/? Communication is _the_ issue here, since it is only through communication that NovaRoma exists. Without it, we are only "voices crying in the wilderness". My knowledge of AR is small but growing; on most matters Roman, I am only a student. I shall be certain to contribute when I am able to do so - note that I have offered my expertise in computers for the benefit of NR in a recent post - but for now, I have little to say in many of those areas. On the other hand, as any good citizen who is concerned with the welfare of his country, I *can* remain watchful for any encroachment on our freedoms, and sound the alarm whenever I see them under attack - and perhaps even aid in their protection, to what extent I can. > I look > forward to seeing all of you add to the culture and experience of Nova Roma > in the future. May the Gods grant you good fortune. And my best wishes to you for the very same. Valete, Caius Minucius Scaevola -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate. Entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily. -- Principle known as Occam's Razor, "used for example in physics." |
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Are the Nova Roma coins still available for purchase? Just wanted to check before I sent my money :) regards, mtoal |
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Hail Roma Greetings to you M.Africanus Secundus My wish for you is to find hope,friendship and brotherhood here in Nova Roma.Look to those around you for growth in NR and You'll find friends for life! Love Life to you!! G Porticus Brutis markginjax wrote:Greetings! I am new here and thought I would introduce myself. My latin name is Marcus Africanus Secundus. I am very interested in all things roman and bysentine.( I am also a very poor speller) Marcus Africanus Secundus |
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Hail Roma I know I'm new to Nova Roma,just under a few months but M. Minucius Audens has seemed to have a mind for the greater good of NR and its people.He is trying to get the land needed to build Our Rome ,and from what I've read there is not a lot of people try as hard to do this.So what if he may or may not like this guy thats not whats important.This is a message board to post what you like,dislike or feel about Rome and Its people.As for myself there has been a person who may or may not have said things that made me very mad but I let it go.we are on a mission and wish to see this goal reached.I do think M. Minucius Audens has a right to say what he feels and has very good points.Let him speak and let the junior consul have he's say.Then buy him a drink and let it go.After thats over, let us get back to work bulding NR great again! G.Porticus Brutis building --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 10/6/02 2:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jamiekjohnston@yahoo.co.uk writes: > My suggestion would be for the Praetors to issue formulae rather than > edicts, as under the current constitution edicts have legal force, which > would perhaps make them too strong for this purpose. If such a practice > were to be adopted, we might consider Praetor Stabo's recent comments to > constitute a formula. > Salvete. Several comments: First: The Praetor has posted guidelines what constitutes acceptable conduct on this list. They were not vetoed by either Consul nor her fellow Praetor. Therefore those are the standards we are dealing with. Second. Knowing these standards beforehand, I violated them in the heat of argument. I was punished accordingly. Of course me being the big bad Proconsul I attempted to reason my way out of it. However the Praetor stuck to her decision and I served my sentence. Now, I only mention this because there are guidelines. Perhaps they should be posted on the website, or the announcement list for all to see. Finally, if you feel the Praetor has overstepped her bounds about your individual freedom, you are free to appeal her decision. But talk to her first. You will see that while she reprimands, she never does it frivolously. Valete Q. Fabius Maximus [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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AVETE QVIRITES I, Manivs Constantinvs Serapio (S. Rattes) do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma. As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Manivs Constantinvs Serapio (S. Rattes) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private life. I, Manivs Constantinvs Serapio (S. Rattes) swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the State Religion. I, Manivs Constantinvs Serapio (S. Rattes) swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma. I, Manivs Constantinvs Serapio (S. Rattes) further swear to fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of Scriba Translationem Primus Academiae Thules to the best of my abilities. On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept the position of Sriba Translationem Primus Academiae Thules and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto. OPTIME VALETE Manivs Constantinvs Serapio |
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Salvete Omnes, I cannot read my Webmail correctly. I will try to fix this problem as soon as possible. Sorry for the inconvenience. Valete, -- Sextus Apollonius Scipio Propraetor Galliae |
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Salvete Omnes, I cannot read the news form Nova Roma anymore. I will try to find a new webmail service, this might take one or two days. Sorry for the incionvenience. Valete, Sextus Apollonius Scipio Propraetor Galliae Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France NRLandProject, acting Praefectus Pecuniae French Translator |
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Franciscus Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D. Womderful!!! the next Ludi Victoria by Cohors Aedilis seems to be the most big and exciting games of the year. Awards, theatre, music, history, religion, and first of all TWO VIRTUAL CIRCUS: the Victoriae Ludi Circenses and the final Maximi Ludi Circenses (close to the best 16 players of the year). So, this is the last opportunity in 2755 to run in our virtual Circus with your auriga and to qualify for the final race appinting the BEST CHARIOTEER 2755. Hurry up, this time we want minimum 32 players and we would like to see mor chariots coloured of blue and white. Your enemy is the strong Praesina, only you can stop the "Invincible Factio"!!! Read the regulations at http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/victoria/vlc.htm --------------- Regulations VLC Nova Roma organize "Victoria Ludi Circenses", chariot races during the Ludi Victoria October 16 - 1st November, 2002, in recollection of the roman customs of amusement and entertainment. In these games only there take part the citizens registered in Nova Roma who want to do it according to the following rules exposed below. 1) How to take part? 1.1) Every player have to send our subscription to salixgalaicus@hotmail.com [Gnaeus Salix Galaicus] with the subject "Ludi Circensis", within the following informations: His/her name in Nova Roma The name of his/her driver The name of his/her chariot His/her tactics for the Quarter and Semifinals (see point 2) His/her tactics for the Finals (see point 2) The name of his/her "factio" or team (green, red, blue or white) 1.2) The subscriptions must be sent before October 15, 2002 (time of Rome). 1.3) Every player only will send one chariot. 2) Tactics Six (6) race tactics are possible: To hurry in the last laps To pass the curves closely the "spina" of the circus. To support a constant pace To lash the rivals To push the rivals to the wall of the circus To hurry in the straight lines 2.1) Each player have the possibility to change his/her tactics if he/she runs in the Final. He/she can send a tactics for the Quarter and Semifinals and a tactics for the Final race. 3) Dirty actions A citizen can try the assassination of the driver of a rival factio or the sabotage of his/her chariot. 3.1) Assassination of the driver of a rival factio The player must say to what factio he attacks. The chance is 30 %. If the attempt is uncovered, the killer player is fined but his/her chariot can take part in the race. If the attempt has success, the player with the murdered driver can not take part in the race. Of course, the killer isn´t uncovered. 3.2) Sabotage of a chariot The player must say to what factio he attacks. The chance is 45 %. If the attempt is uncovered, the killer player is fined and his/her chariot can´t take part in the race. If the attemp t has success, the player with the broken chariot WILL SUFFER AN ACCIDENT in the race. Of course, the saboteur isn´t uncovered. If a player reaches three fines. He/she will be reminded publicly in the forum and he/she will not take part in the following Ludi. 3) How it will be the competition? The competition is for elimination (quarter, semi-finals and final). Every race will take 4 participants. In the Quarter there is one player as every factio, the first two players continue running, the last two are eliminated. In the Semifinals there are the winners of the Quarter, the first players run to the Final. In the Final the 4 best players runs, the first is the Winner. This is the schedule: QUARTER, 32 players Run in Semifinal the firs two aurigae SEMIFINAL, 16 players Run in Final the firs aurigae FINAL, 4 players Win the first 4) How the races will be? 4.1. ACCIDENTS. Before doing the calculations of a race, the editor determine who has an accident. For it, he roll one dice 0-100 for every chariot. The resultant number will be its percentage of accident. - The drivers with tactics 1 will have 0 to 15 percentage of accident always. 0 to 25 if there are one or more drivers with tactics 4 or 5. - The drivers with tactics 2 will have 0 to 20 percentage of accident always. 0 to 35 if there are one or more drivers with tactics 4 or 5. - The drivers with tactics 3 will have 0 to 10 percentage always. - The drivers with tactics 4 will have 0 to 15 percentage always. 0 to 25 if there are other drivers with tactics 4. - The drivers with tactics 5 will have 0 to 15 always. 0 to 25 if there are other drivers with tactics 5. - The drivers with tactics 6 will have 0 to 5 percentage always. 0 to 20 if there are other drivers with tactics 4 or 5. 4.2) CALCULATION OF THE RACES. After determining which chariots (if any) have been eliminated from a race due to an accident, the editor must calculate the order in which the remaining teams finished the race. The editor will roll one dice 0-10 for every player. This will be the Value of Race (VR) of every car. To know the final position of a chariot in the race the VR of every player is divided by the sum of all the VR and the result is multiplied by 50. This way we have its Chance to Win (CW). For example, if there is a race with 4 chariots with these VR: 6,5,4,2 then the first chariot, with the VR 6, would have the following Chance to to Win: 6/17 (17 is the sum of 6+5+4+2) x 50 = 17.6 (rounding, 18). The CW of the first chariot will be 18 points. The second chariot, with VR 5, would have 5/17x50 = 14.7 (rounding, 15), therefore its CW is 15 points. The tactics modify the CW of the following way: Tactics 1) +6 points. Tactics 2) +8 points. Tactics 3) No points. The tactics 4 and 5 do not affect it. Tactics 4) +2 points. The tactics 5 do not affect it. Tactics 5) +2 points. The tactics 4 do not affect it. Tactics 6) +4 points. Assign each team a specific range of numbers out of a series of 100 that is equal to the team's Chance to Win. Assign these team ranges consecutively. In our sample race, for example, Chariot 1's range (with tactics 2) would be 01 through 25 (18+7). Chariot 2's range (with tactics 4) would be 26 through 40. The final step for the Editor is to roll a dice 0-100 to determine the order of finish. The chariot within whose range the first dice 0-100 roll falls is the team that finishes the race in first place. The chariot within whose range the second dice 0-100 roll falls is the team that finishes the race in second place. The chariot within whose range the third D100 roll falls is the chariot that finishes the race in third place. And so on. Once a chariot's position has been determined, ignore subsequent rolls that fall within its range and roll again. In our sample race, the first die roll result is 25. This makes chariot 2 (Range 26-40) the first place winner. 5) Time schedule *October 5, 2002: Announcement of the races' instructions and opening of the inscriptions (a maximum of 32 players) * October 15: Deadline for the inscriptions * October 17: h. 7:00 PM (time of Rome): Announcement by C.Fabius Quintilianus and start of the first turn of races. h. 8:30 PM: Announcement of the winners of the first turn and summary of the races. * October 19: Start Semifinals h. 8:30 PM: Announcement of the winners of the semifinals and summary of the races. * October 21: Start Final h. 8:30 PM: Announcement of the winner history of the race. 6) Winners The Winner of the Final will be the Winner of the 4th Ludi Circensis and will publish on the Ludi Romani Website http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/vitoriae and in the Main Mailing List of Nova Roma at October 21 , 2002. There will other races during the Ludi of the 2755. The best 4 runners of the year will run in the Final Chariot Race MAXIMI LUDI CIRCENSES. Informations: - Cohors Aedilis Website - Section Ludi: http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/victoriae - Scriba Aedilis Cursus Equorum Curulis Aedilis Gnaeus Salix Galaicus: piteas@jazzfiesta.com - Quaestor Franciscus Apulus Caesar: sacro_barese_impero@libero.it Valete Franciscus Apulus Caesar ------------------------------------------- Propraetor Provinciae Italiae Quaestor Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus Scriba Curatoris Araneum ------------------------------------------- Provincia Italia - http://italia.novaroma.org Paterfamilias Gens Apula - www.gensapula.too.it Cohors Aedilis C. Fabius Quintilianus - http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis Web Nova Roman Experiments - http://lab.novaroma.org/wnre |
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Citizens of Nova Roma; My "challenge" of the other day, I see has borne fruit. The response of a wide set of views, were in fact quite refreshing and have in a definite way reinforced the former responses to a similar question. I thank Master Drusus for his lenghthy and very informative response to my "challenge." I thought perhaps that I could count upon him to leap into the breech, as it were, and point out to those who are new to the Main List and Nova Roma, the depth of feeling regarding our Main List and it's function, together with the legal aspects of such. Further, I thank those who have also posted and will post on this thread giving thier views regarding the challenge. I remind all here that I am a Senator, and as such, it is my feeling that when Nova Roma Citizens address thier concerns to me, that I am responsible for finding them answers. This I have done on two occasions, not as some may have momentarily thought to limit the exchange on this list; but rather to provide answers to the concerns of my constituents. I personnally think that the Main List is our Main Artery of communication, and the flow of that commuication should not be hampered in any topical way which relates to the Culture and History of Rome. We have certainly seen in the past that an unmoderated list will not work, and so in the Consulship of Q. Fabius Maxmus and myself, the list was again moderated, and the moderation has been well carried out by those chosen to do so. I defend the freedom of this list and the wide variety of topics discussed here, and I invite those who do not care for what is posted here to post thier own interests or simply delete those portions of this list for which they have no interest. I urge all to remember that for every topic that one individual finds annoying or of little value / interest, there is at least one other in Nova Roma who finds the topic facinating and of signifcant importance. However, I remind those long-term citizens that new citizens join us all the time, and the long standing ideas, and understanding of the Main List, shared by citizens of seniority are not always understood by those who are newly arrived. What better way to provide an understanding of the breadth of feeling for our Main List than to challenge the list, and generate for the newcomers to our Republic, the very well-stated opinions of a wide selection of those who have given thought to this topic and thread. They have done so in a manner far superior to any poor such efforts on my part. I again thank you for your well constituted comments in response to the questions and concerns of our newer citizens, and for your assistance in answering our new friend's questions. To the newcomers here, I offer my most sincere welcome, and further; a place, as you have seen, to address your concerns. I have not always had the immediate answers to your questions, and am not clever enough to see ways to always make an immediate improvement, but I can certainly try to assist you in satisfying your concerns as you have seen. Welcome to Nova Roma, and welcome to all the Republic provides!!!! Respectfully; Marcus Minucius Audens Quaestor, Senator, ProConsul -- Nova Roma Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary |
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Honored Consul Sulla Felix; I was extremely pleased to read your response to Senator Cassia. Rash actions are a common occurance among human-kind, and certainly not to be overly emphasised if the generating personage is aware of the action, is regretful of such, and is trying to deal with it. I have dealt with you harshly in the past, because it is my method to be brutally straightforward, as it almost always yields good results. Your obvious attempts to work on your problems, as I pursue mine on a constant basis, is a pleasure to see. If I may be of any assistance to you, I gladly offer such. As I have said, I own that I have dealt with you harshly, but only in regard to those outward attributes that I believe do not reflect an advantage to the Republic. I have not met you personnally, and if that opportunity arises we may be able to better evaluate our differences and our mutual attractions in a more definate way. I honor your care of your gens and the affection that they hold for you, as an indicaion that there is certainly a caring individual behind your name and words. Personnally I have no problem wth you as we have not met. Politically and Culturally, I am watchful, and I extend my hand of assistance and again of truce as long as you will maintain some sort of the control as you have evidenced, and as you have addressed here. Certainly we may disagree politically, and usually do. That is an understood factor in the political field. However, I cannot condone injurius outbursts which harm the Republic from inside, and I am sure that you will understand that aspect of my concern. That said, it is forgotten by myself, with your admission of the problem. I wish you the best of the future, and the greatest success in your personal movement towards improvement. Sincerely and Very Respectfully; Marcus Minucius Audens A wet sheet and a flowing sea, and a wind follows fast, and fills the white and rustling sail, and bends the gallant mast; and bends the gallant mast my boys while like the eagle free, our good ship starts and flies and leaves old England on our lee------Fair Winds and following Seas!!! |
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--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "pjane" <pcassia@n...> wrote: > > It's pretty good, the talking dosen't really work but the music > > is great.very fast shipping!!! > > I think David Marshall's is the best attempt to date at recreating Roman music, and I'm so glad that several people in Nova Roma have encouraged the creators by buying it! > > I don't suppose any of you out there is a music scholar? I belong to a medieval/Renaissance band and I could probably get several people interested in playing Roman music if we could only get hold of sheet music. I just don't have enough knowledge to create it myself! > > Patricia Cassia *sigh* would that I could dust off my mouldering musical talents and play with you! All those years in school, learning to saw away at a 'cello sitting sidesaddle in my mini-skirt, they're wasted, I tell you! Wasted ;-) Seriously, I see I am going to have to purchase this CD and fantasize about playing. I DO read music... or did once upon a time! --- cura ut valeas, @____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna |||| www.villaivlilla.com/ @____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome |||| Rogatrix, MMDCCLV Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae Curatrix Araneae, America Boreoccidentalis http://ambor.konoko.net |
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--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "Titus Gabrielatus Genialis" <tggenialis@y...> wrote: > Salvete novoromani! > > I am a 15 year old boy from Brazil and I just love Nova Roman ideas. So, I entered on this email list to learn more about it. I am trying to convince my parents to allow me to be a Nova Roman citizen (once I am not yet 18, I have to have their authorization, right?) and while I don't get my citizenship, I'll learn as much as I can by sharing experiences with all you novoromani. > I am also working with Imperium of Lucius Arminius Faustus on the > translation of the main site into Portuguese and soonly you all will can see published there some of my works. > If someone would like to talk to me, can either send me emails to > tggenialis@y... or add me to your ICQ list (my number is 75873373). > > Valete! > > Titus Genialis. > Nova Roma lover (soon citizen) > Interpreter into Portuguese with Imperium of L. A. Faustus. > tggenialis@y... / ICQ 75873373 First, I commend you for your willingness to serve Nova Roma, and I am sure Lucius Arminius Faustus is grateful for your assistance in this important task. This is an excellent way to spend these last few years as an impuberes, and I cant think of few better ways to learn about Nova Roma! I also commend you for honouring whatever decision your parentes may render regarding citizenship, for in this way you also honour the spirit of Nova Roma. You are an excellent example of our sacred Nova Roman values! --- cura ut valeas, @____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna |||| www.villaivlilla.com/ @____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome |||| Rogatrix, MMDCCLV Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae Curatrix Araneae, America Boreoccidentalis http://ambor.konoko.net |
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--- In Nova-Roma@y..., "rexmarciusnr" <RexMarcius@a...> wrote: > --- In Nova-Roma@y..., "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@e...> wrote: > > Ave Marcus Marcius, > > > > Just to inform you, when you resigned your citizenship and were > gone from Nova Roma the People of Nova Roma voted to eliminate the > Curator Sermo position. The Praetors have taken up those > responsibilities and duties. The law that was promulgated was: Lex > Octavia de Sermone and can be found here: > http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/2002-06-05-i.html. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix > > Salve Consul! > > You are indeed right about this, it slipped my mind. May I suggest to > put a sign "rescinded" after the relevant section in the Lex Vedia > Vigintisexviri. > > Ave et Vale > > Marcus Marcius Rex ... after some digging, the changes to the lex have been made as you recommended. --- cura ut valeas, @____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna |||| www.villaivlilla.com/ @____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome |||| Rogatrix, MMDCCLV Scriba, Nova Roma Curator Araneae Curatrix Araneae, America Boreoccidentalis http://ambor.konoko.net |
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Salvete omnes, I have been searching for ages for Ancient Roman tunes that might have been passed down orally through the ages. No luck yet. One of our more expert Nova Romans will look into it for when he has a chance. Still you can find some ancient Celtic, Jewish, Middle Eastern and Greek tunes. I think they would sound great, especially played on Roman instruments. Regards, Quintus Lanius Paulinus Scriba Praefecti AFRICA SEPTENTRIONALIS http://www.geocities.com/africa_septentrionalis/index.html PAX ROMANA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Salvete Quirites, Today's shooting in Maryland occurred about four or five miles from the site of the annual "Roman Days" event. Our hosts at that event, Legion XX, are based in that area. May the Gods of Rome preserve and protect them from these unknown murderers. Valete, Octavius. -- Marcus Octavius Germanicus Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c. Curator Araneum et Senator |
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Is that in Prince George's County or the other County? Vale, Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: [Nova-Roma] Maryland shootings Salvete Quirites, Today's shooting in Maryland occurred about four or five miles from the site of the annual "Roman Days" event. Our hosts at that event, Legion XX, are based in that area. May the Gods of Rome preserve and protect them from these unknown murderers. Valete, Octavius. -- Marcus Octavius Germanicus Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c. Curator Araneum et Senator To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Salve Consul, > Is that in Prince George's County or the other County? Today's shooting (at the Middle School) was in Prince George's County, in the town of Bowie, just east of the Roman Days site. The others were in Montgomery County. Vale, Octavius. -- Marcus Octavius Germanicus Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c. Curator Araneum et Senator |
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Q. Fabius Maximus wrote: > First: The Praetor has posted guidelines what constitutes acceptable conduct > on this list. > They were not vetoed by either Consul nor her fellow Praetor. Therefore > those are the standards we are dealing with. Many thanks for pointing this out. > Now, I only mention this because there are guidelines. Perhaps they should > be posted on the website, or the announcement list for all to see. > Finally, if you feel the Praetor has overstepped her bounds about your > individual freedom, > you are free to appeal her decision. But talk to her first. You will see > that while she reprimands, she never does it frivolously. To be sure, I didn't intend at any stage to suggest that Praetor Strabo's guidelines were unjust or unconstitutional, nor that they were non-existent. I was merely mentioning a custom of the ancient Romans, the practice of issuing jurisprudential 'formulae', which might have served as a useful and historical model for future announcements of this kind by any Praetor, and in whose light we might usefully see the Praetor's recent comments. Nor did I wish to make any implication about any past action of yours or of any other person. Jamie www.strategikon.org --------------------------------- Get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Salvete Romani, et salve Saturninus, Caius Tarquitius Saturninus scripsit: > I would purchase roman books which are made like > roman books, i.e. a roll of papyrus with of wooden > stacke at one or two ends. While the Roman books were usually several such rolls, often sold in leather buckets, I'm told that there is also good reason to think that the "codex" form of pages bound together, as we think of books today, was in use as early as the time of Gaius Julius Caesar. Therefore, I think that the style of codex being offered is in fact historically accurate, and that it represents a sort of "book" that a Roman from the late Republic might recognize. > Text should be written in roman handwriting. I fear this would be terribly expensive, as well as very hard to read, since the custom of the day was to leave no spaces between words. SomereasonablepersonsmightdisagreeofcoursebutIfinditveryhardtoreadunspacedtext. [...] > An Item that could be great for sale might be a NR > ring, I think. The only Roman men's rings that I can think of would be Senatorial and Equestrian signet rings. Is that what you had in mind? I think it would be wonderful if our Senators all had true iron rings on their index fingers (most likely substituting stainless steel as a concession to modern jewelry making practice.) However, I don't have the funds to gift the Senate with such rings, and I wouldn't want to volunteer the meagre funds in the treasury for such a purpose. But if a reasonably priced ring could be found, perhaps the Senators would then be able to wear proper iron rings as befits their office. Are you aware of any such? Valete, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com |
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Salvete omnes, being my first language the nowadays latin of 2755 Italy, I beg everyone's pardon for my english. I would like to point something out concerning freedom of speech. I have seen people debating such topics as Fascism or pornography, as instances of what should be allowed or not. Well, my opinion is: we should always and strictly keep adherent to ancient Rome ethic. I don't think we would have the same esteem of Caesar, Augustus or Numa Pompilio had we known of a special interest of them in sexual perversion. Pornography is plainly an illness. Moreover, is morally to condemn. This should end the point. This was an instance not chosen by me, to suggest that roman freedom of speech has to be ours. But many topics are not to be paralleled to behaviours condemned by roman moral. After all, you can be fascist in public, or communist, or sionist or whatever, but you normally don' t look at a porn movie with your children on your knees. Plain common sense and Rome are truly enough for Praetores to delete anything not roman from the list. Politics can always be matter of speech, sexual deseases not. If fascist did not allow people to fight them from inside, I don't see it very different from communist attitude or democratic attitude: in Italy is outlaw being fascist, in Germany too. In Rome there was a quite reasonable death penalty. Bene valete omnes Gallus Solaris Alexander |
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-----Original Message----- >From : =?iso-8859-1?q?Jamie=20Johnston?= > cases when people pass into and out of slavery: clearly they don't literally change race, and the racial idea probably wasn't literally believed. But it perhaps explains partly why the Romans were so uncomfortable about freedmen. It took several generations for a family to live down the perceived stigma of descent from a slave. > I don't think they would have had the 'better dead than red' dishonour philosophy underlying Japan and I don't believe the Japanese truly had it either as much as perverted it to support a kind of fascism. Nor am I at all sure what they might make of our world: I suspect they would claim that where they recognised it as a a necessary evil, we have abolished the contrast between slave and free by becoming all slaves. Probably the inability to call one's life one's own and to say No was regarded as contaminating so that once enslaved it is something very hard to eradicate from the soul. They were of course quite right but their economy could no more replace slaves than ours replace employees with machines: it would become a totally different economy. And of course there are plenty of people who still regard the 'great unwashed' as *if* they were a different species or will justify it as eugenicists did by quoting inbreeding and hereditary defects. The alternative, sadly, expects too much too soon: these things *do* behave as if inbred through generations of bad living and cause more. used by slave-traders in more recent centuries to justify enslaving Africans, who clearly *were* a different race, thus fitting very nicely into Greek and Roman ideas on the matter. > Ironically since I believe the one people most likely to be regarded as racially natural slaves were the Teutons. I'm not sure why, since they were not subject to an almighty chief. It is possible that Greeks and Romans wrote their own prejudices on war-leaders who would be for the duration dictatorial much as later people did on Amerindian war chiefs. >I may be doing a disservice to ancient philosophy by overlooking any thinkers who did not accept that slavery was justifiable, in which case I should be pleased to hear about it from anyone who hasn't been put off reading this thread by its descent from the freedom of speech / libel thread (I've re-named it in the hope of shaking this hereditary stigma). > I can't see any reason they could have regarded it as unjustifiable. The best you'd find is I think Seneca and St. Paul pleading that slaves are still human beings and to be treated as such despite their servile status. I do recall following a daily series called Louisiane on Radio France-Inter (can't get it here) where they asked what the 19th century metropolitan Frenchman might have made of his by then American slave-owning cousin. The answer was essentially, envy but relief that employees were not an investment needing as much expense to keep them healthy as employeees who could be turned out and replaced at lower wages. 'Tis a thing worth thinking about! Vibius Ambrosius Caesariensis. -- Personalised email by http://another.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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-----Original Message----- >From : Proculus Postumius Nero <postumius@gmx.net> > > >Second: Were it made available, who of you would purchase, perhaps, texts of ancient writers that were bound between two wood boards (for hardness) covered in leather (most likely artificial), on tinted paper (with the 'aged' look and feel) held together by three (more or less) strands of sinew or some type of ancient string? It's an idea I had for raising money for the Land Project, so I'd like the public opinion. > NOT Paper! Papyrus is as near as extinct right now. (There's some in a preserve on the Nile). No doubt anything else to hand was used. Pseudo-vellum paper might work or some thin card made similar to papyrus strip but bark is a good contender. As far as I can tell, the real difference is that the ancient stuff was not broken down as far as separate fibres but remained in one layer of mashed reed strips fused into another crossways. Whether that was used for Codices as well as scrolls, I don't know. Vibius Ambrosius Caesariensis. -- Personalised email by http://another.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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-----Original Message----- >From : Lucius Equitius <vergil@starpower.net> > >Mostly goat and calf hide from what I've seen but try our Legio XX website >http://www.larp.com/legioxx/leather.html >and also contact the RomanArmy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Related to which, Italy is about the only European country with Water Buffalo in it. Were they there in Roman times or did some enterprising Renaissance traveller import them? Vibius Ambrosius Caesariensis. -- Personalised email by http://another.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Salvete Cives Novae Romae, Due to the resignation of Amulius Claudius Petrus, we are in need of a Curule Aedile. The Senate will be appointing a citizen to this position, as there are less than ninety days left in the term. If any citizen (who has been citizen six months or more, and is over 21 years old) wishes to be Curule Aedile, please write to "senate@novaroma.org". Valete, Octavius. -- Marcus Octavius Germanicus Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c. Curator Araneum et Senator |
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-----Original Message----- >From : Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <equitius_marinus@yahoo.com> > >SomereasonablepersonsmightdisagreeofcoursebutIfinditveryhardtoreadunspacedtext. > Purely out of awkwardness her, Chinese and Japanese still mostly are but Sanskrit goes one step further: because a single sign with vowel mark is considered to indicate all the consonants preceding a vowel and there is word division only after M before a consonant or when two vowels cannot coalesce into a dipthong, individual *letters* can actually be split between words. Add to that a phonetic spelling system and elaborate rules of mutual affect between endings and beginnings and you get things like Ahamacaaryah : I [a] teacher; Acaaryo 'smyaham : A teacher am I; Ahamasmyacaaryah : I am a teacher; Acaaryo 'sti : A teacher is [s/he]. VIBIUSAMBROSIVSCAESARIENSIS. -- Personalised email by http://another.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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--- In Nova-Roma@y..., Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@c...> wrote: > > Today's shooting in Maryland occurred about four or five miles from > the site of the annual "Roman Days" event. Our hosts at that event, > Legion XX, are based in that area. > And don't forget the Propraetor of Mediatlantica! Ducking, Nerva |