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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: welcome back Draco
From:	"mariuscorneliusscipio" <nramos@spawar.navy.mil>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:26:12 -0000

Salvete omnesque mi Germanica!

At the risk of sounding a bit harsh, I would hazard that this type of
question may best be asked in private. Marcus Octavius Solaris has
come to us as a privatus, and desires no more than to participate in
our Res Publica as such. It serves neither Prudentia nor Concordia to
inquire about private decisions in public fora. Please, amica, let it
be.

Marcus Octavius Solaris, welcome back. I for one am glad you return
to us, and look forward to future discourse with you. Count on me as
a friend, if you will - we may have disagreed in the past, and may
yet disagree on many things; but nothing prevents us from being
gentlemen about it.

Optime valete in pace Deorum,
Marius Cornelius Scipio

--- In novaroma@y..., "Milly Jansen" <millys2@h...> wrote:
> Salve Draco/ Solaris et Salvete omnes!
>
> Now that is what I call a surprise! :-)
>
> Could you please explain to us why you've changed your name from
Draco in
> M.Octavius Solaris, mi Draco/Solaris?
>
> vale bene,
>
> Agrippina Iulia Germanica
>
> PS A happy New Year for all the cives of NR and their loved ones!
>
>
> >From: "Caius Cornelius Puteanus" <puteus@h...>
> >Reply-To: novaroma@y...
> >To: "Nova Roma Group" <novaroma@y...>
> >Subject: [novaroma] welcome back Draco
> >Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:28:58 +0100
> >
> >Salvete Quirites!
> >
> >Who doesn't remember the newly elected aedilis Sextus Apollonius
Draco, who
> >stated a few days ago he left Nova Roma (for the second time) and
that he
> >didn't even want to make use of the 9 days to think about it... But
> >nevertheless he returned: welcome back Draco, now to be known
as Marcus
> >Octavius Solaris...
> >
> >
> >Vale bene!
> >
> >Caius Cornelius Puteanus
> >www.geocities.com/puteanus/
> >www.geocities.com/Germania_Inferior/
>
>
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Subject:	[novaroma] Oath of Office - Scriba Curator Araneae
From:	"Julilla" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:39:12 -0000

A.D. IV. Non. Ian. MMDCCLV a.u.c.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna (Sara Urdahl), do hereby
solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act
always in the best interests of the people and the Senate
of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, swear
to honour the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and
to pursue the Roman virtues in my public and private life.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, swear to uphold and defend the
Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never
to act in any way that would threaten its status as the State
Religion.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, swear to protect and defend the
Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Julilla Sempronia Magna, further swear to fulfill the
obligations and responsibilities of the office of Scriba Curator
Araneae to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Scriba Curator Araneae and all the
rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities attendant
thereto.

This I swear by Juno Moneta, she who advises.

Ita est!

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Australian Sports Joke
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Craig=20Stevenson?= <gaiussentius@yahoo.com.au>
Date:	Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:12:29 +1100 (EST)

Salve Marcus Minucius,

<ROFL!> That sounds about right! The people out here
are as fervent in their support of Australian Rules
Football as many people are die-hard supporters of
soccer teams. In fact, out here, our Prime Ministers
usually call an election around Grand Final time so
that they don't have to worry overly much about last
minute campaigning, as everyone is too busy watching
the Grand Final!:-))

Vale bene,

Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura

\*Currently lying on the floor in tears of laughter!*/

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I just couldn't help myself!!!!!! 
 
Grand Final -- Australian Rules Football; 
 
A man arriving for the "Grand Final" in
Melbourne is surprised to find 
the seat beside his empty. Tickets for the
"Grand Final" are sold out 
weeks in advance and empty seats are unknown. So
he says to the man on 
the other side of the empty seat, "Excuse me, do
you know why there is 
no-one in this seat?" 
 
"Oh, it's my wife's," answers the second
man,"but I'm afraid she died." 
 
"That's terrible. I'm so sorry." 
 
"Yes, she never missed a match." 
 
"But couldn't you have given the ticket to a
friend or relative?" 
 
"Oh no. They're all at the funeral."
 
 
Unapologetically Yours; 
 
Marcus Audens 
 
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!! 
 
 
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Subject:	[novaroma] Oath of Office Rogator
From:	Shane Evans <marcusafricanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:28:53 -0800 (PST)

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans) do
hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova
Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Scipio
Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans) swear to honor the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and
to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans)
swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the
State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in
a way that would threaten its status as the State
Religion.

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans)
swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova
Roma.

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans)
further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Rogator to
the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Rogator and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Bene Vale,
M. Scipio Africanus
Praetor of Lacus Magni
Militarium Tribunus Angusticlavii
Rogator
Curator Differium

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Subject:	[novaroma] Oath of office - Curator Differium
From:	Shane Evans <marcusafricanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:30:53 -0800 (PST)

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans) do
hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova
Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Scipio
Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans) swear to honor the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and
to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans)
swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the
State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in
a way that would threaten its status as the State
Religion.

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans)
swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova
Roma.

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans)
further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Curator Differium to

the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Curator Differium and all the rights, privileges,
obligations, and responsibilities attendant thereto.

Bene Vale,
M. Scipio Africanus
Praetor of Lacus Magni
Militarium Tribunus Angusticlavii
Rogator
Curator Differium

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Subject:	[novaroma] Oath of office - Praetor of Lacus Magni
From:	Shane Evans <marcusafricanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:32:19 -0800 (PST)

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans) do
hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor of Nova
Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
people and the Senate of Nova Roma.

As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Marcus Scipio
Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans) swear to honor the
Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and
to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans)
swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana as the
State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in
a way that would threaten its status as the State
Religion.

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans)
swear to protect and defend the Constitution of Nova
Roma.

I, Marcus Scipio Scipiadus Africanus (Shane Evans)
further swear to fulfill the obligations and
responsibilities of the office of Praetor of Lacus
Magni to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the
presence of the Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people
and by their will and favor, do I accept the position
of Praetor of Lacus Magni and all the rights,
privileges, obligations, and responsibilities
attendant thereto.

Bene Vale,
M. Scipio Africanus
Praetor of Lacus Magni
Militarium Tribunus Angusticlavii
Rogator
Curator Differium

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Subject:	[novaroma] Digest No 1789
From:	"Lucius Equitius" <vze23hw7@verizon.net>
Date:	Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:40:01 -0500

Ex Domo Censor Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Quiritbus SPD

I too will say prayers for those suffering "Down Under", true friends who
are always there for us.
May those responsible know the same mercy that they themselves gave.

Bene omnibus nobis

---
Salve Gai Sente:

Having been working a few days consecutive, I'm a bit behind in my
macronational news, and I was unaware of this tragic incident.

Your people of S. Wales have my sympathy, and my prayers that these
fires will soon be arrested, that the personal injuries can somehow be
minimized, and that those who may be responsible for inflicting such
suffering on innocent people shall be brought to the sternist of
justice.

All my best,
Pompeia Cornelia
Praetrix
Nova Roma
_____________________________________________________________________

Lucius Equitius: Yes indeed, we do have a new citizen who wishes to
contribue culturally and religiously. Solaris *was* often caught in the
middle, let's give him a place of peace. I hope that we can forgive youthful
zeal of the past and appreciate his gifts now.

Subject: Re: welcome back Draco

Salvete Quirites,

> I can understand one having a solid reason for leaving and sticking with
it.
> Although, when a citizen pops back and forth between having citizenship
like
> Sextus Apollonius has I severely question his devotion.

It is extraordinarly difficult for anyone holding a high office
in another organization to simultaenously devote himself to
Nova Roma. Thus, the former Draco had chosen to return as a
privatus, and to avoid politics here, but continue to take part
in our cultural activities.

As we had anticipated that he would receive harsh criticism from
both groups, we had hoped that he could return quietly and with
little fanfare. That, unfortunately, did not happen; his identity
was broadcast to our mailing list and to theirs.

That damage cannot be undone; but please respect his desire
to remain among us as a private citizen.

Valete, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] welcome back Solaris
From:	Maximina Octavia <myownq@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:56:45 -0800 (PST)

> Salvete Quirites,
>
I want to sincerely welcome my new brother Marcus
Octavius Solaris to our gens.

I was moved and elated when I found out that my Pater
adopted Solaris.

I wish to offer my warmest welcome and offer to
support you, Solaris, as your new sister. You have my
complete devotion and loyalty and I hope that you will
always feel free to call upon me for anything you may
need or if you just wish to chat.

The past is water under the bridge and we will
transcend time in order to gain a fresh start. Happy
New Year and Best wishes in your new home with us!

Love and hugs, your Sister Maximina

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: My sympathies to all
From:	Maximina Octavia <myownq@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:29:06 -0800 (PST)

> Salvete omnes.
> I would like to offer my condolences to the
> people of Australia regarding the recent devastation
of life and homes in the bush.
I offer my prayers and hope for the speedy recovery
and healing of those so severely affected.

Vale, Maximina Octavia
>

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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: welcome back Draco
From:	"pompeia_cornelia" <trog99@hotmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2002 13:21:10 -0000

---

Salve Frater:

Indeed, your evaluation of the need to bring this into the open
parallels mine. You have such a kind, yet honest way of expressing
things, Frater Scipio.

It seems to me that Draco evaluated the things which were making him
unhappy in Nova Roma, namely the politicals, and has decided to make a
new start and come back as a privatus.

We are perpetually saying that Romans do not resign, but, alas, Romans
are human too. the 9-day waiting period is a period for us to come to
terms with our "humanity" and evaluate whether or not we want to
leave, or stay. Why it should never be waivable.

I wish you well too. Solaris. It takes courage to come back, and I
applaude it. And, it is hardly easy (and I don't mean this in a mean
way) to be *you*........namely, 19 going on 35! Therefore I reserve
judgement on you on all but the most necessary and stingent of
circumstances.

Bene vale,
Pompeia Cornelia

In novaroma@y..., "mariuscorneliusscipio" <nramos@s...> wrote:
> Salvete omnesque mi Germanica!
>
> At the risk of sounding a bit harsh, I would hazard that this type
of
> question may best be asked in private. Marcus Octavius Solaris has
> come to us as a privatus, and desires no more than to participate in
> our Res Publica as such. It serves neither Prudentia nor Concordia
to
> inquire about private decisions in public fora. Please, amica, let
it
> be.
>
> Marcus Octavius Solaris, welcome back. I for one am glad you return
> to us, and look forward to future discourse with you. Count on me as
> a friend, if you will - we may have disagreed in the past, and may
> yet disagree on many things; but nothing prevents us from being
> gentlemen about it.
>
> Optime valete in pace Deorum,
> Marius Cornelius Scipio
>
>
> --- In novaroma@y..., "Milly Jansen" <millys2@h...> wrote:
> > Salve Draco/ Solaris et Salvete omnes!
> >
> > Now that is what I call a surprise! :-)
> >
> > Could you please explain to us why you've changed your name from
> Draco in
> > M.Octavius Solaris, mi Draco/Solaris?
> >
> > vale bene,
> >
> > Agrippina Iulia Germanica
> >
> > PS A happy New Year for all the cives of NR and their loved ones!
> >
> >
> > >From: "Caius Cornelius Puteanus" <puteus@h...>
> > >Reply-To: novaroma@y...
> > >To: "Nova Roma Group" <novaroma@y...>
> > >Subject: [novaroma] welcome back Draco
> > >Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:28:58 +0100
> > >
> > >Salvete Quirites!
> > >
> > >Who doesn't remember the newly elected aedilis Sextus Apollonius
> Draco, who
> > >stated a few days ago he left Nova Roma (for the second time) and
> that he
> > >didn't even want to make use of the 9 days to think about it...
But
> > >nevertheless he returned: welcome back Draco, now to be known
> as Marcus
> > >Octavius Solaris...
> > >
> > >
> > >Vale bene!
> > >
> > >Caius Cornelius Puteanus
> > >www.geocities.com/puteanus/
> > >www.geocities.com/Germania_Inferior/
> >
> >
> >
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Subject:	[novaroma] welcome M.Octavius Solaris
From:	mike rasschaert <morosbe2001@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 2 Jan 2002 13:57:48 -0800 (PST)

Salve Marcus Octavius Solaris
I hereby welcome back to Nova Roma, mi ex fratre. I
hope you will enjoy your stay again. And i wonder how
this got public that you were the former Draco?
Vale bene in pax deorum
Tiberius Apollonius Callias

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: welcome back Draco
From:	"Milly Jansen" <millys2@hotmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:41:35 +0100

Salve Scipio!

Well, in the first place I didn't have his private e-mailadress so it was
kind of difficult to ask him this in private...
... and second since this was publicly known I just wanted to ask this in
public (surely I'm not the only one who was wondering about this.)

Besides what about honesty, sincerity, dedication and loyalty to Nova Roma,
mi Scipio?

vale optime!
Agrippina Iulia Germanica

>From: "mariuscorneliusscipio" <nramos@spawar.navy.mil>
>Reply-To: novaroma@yahoogroups.com
>To: novaroma@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [novaroma] Re: welcome back Draco
>Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 00:26:12 -0000
>
>Salvete omnesque mi Germanica!
>
>At the risk of sounding a bit harsh, I would hazard that this type of
>question may best be asked in private. Marcus Octavius Solaris has
>come to us as a privatus, and desires no more than to participate in
>our Res Publica as such. It serves neither Prudentia nor Concordia to
>inquire about private decisions in public fora. Please, amica, let it
>be.
>
>Marcus Octavius Solaris, welcome back. I for one am glad you return
>to us, and look forward to future discourse with you. Count on me as
>a friend, if you will - we may have disagreed in the past, and may
>yet disagree on many things; but nothing prevents us from being
>gentlemen about it.
>
>Optime valete in pace Deorum,
>Marius Cornelius Scipio
>
>
>--- In novaroma@y..., "Milly Jansen" <millys2@h...> wrote:
> > Salve Draco/ Solaris et Salvete omnes!
> >
> > Now that is what I call a surprise! :-)
> >
> > Could you please explain to us why you've changed your name from
>Draco in
> > M.Octavius Solaris, mi Draco/Solaris?
> >
> > vale bene,
> >
> > Agrippina Iulia Germanica
> >
> > PS A happy New Year for all the cives of NR and their loved ones!
> >
> >
> > >From: "Caius Cornelius Puteanus" <puteus@h...>
> > >Reply-To: novaroma@y...
> > >To: "Nova Roma Group" <novaroma@y...>
> > >Subject: [novaroma] welcome back Draco
> > >Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:28:58 +0100
> > >
> > >Salvete Quirites!
> > >
> > >Who doesn't remember the newly elected aedilis Sextus Apollonius
>Draco, who
> > >stated a few days ago he left Nova Roma (for the second time) and
>that he
> > >didn't even want to make use of the 9 days to think about it... But
> > >nevertheless he returned: welcome back Draco, now to be known
>as Marcus
> > >Octavius Solaris...
> > >
> > >
> > >Vale bene!
> > >
> > >Caius Cornelius Puteanus
> > >www.geocities.com/puteanus/
> > >www.geocities.com/Germania_Inferior/
> >
> >
> >
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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] welcome M.Octavius Solaris
From:	Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2002 06:19:47 -0800

Ave,

The answer is simple.

Go to this link: http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/provincia?provid=GAUL

Then, examing those local magistrates. and click on their profile.

Vale,

Sulla

mike rasschaert wrote:

> Salve Marcus Octavius Solaris
> I hereby welcome back to Nova Roma, mi ex fratre. I
> hope you will enjoy your stay again. And i wonder how
> this got public that you were the former Draco?
> Vale bene in pax deorum
> Tiberius Apollonius Callias
>
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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: welcome M.Octavius Solaris
From:	"g_popillius_laenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2002 15:56:13 -0000

Salvete,

I welcome any cive with a true love of things Roman and a sincere
desire to see Nova Roma florish.

Valete,
Gaius Popillius Laenas

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Subject:	[novaroma] =?iso-8859-1?Q?INVESTMENT=20OF=20IMPERIUM?=
From:	tiberius.ann@bluemail.ch
Date:	Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:02:36 +0100

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, as a Lictor of Nova Roma and a member of the Comitia
Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium - the power
to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws - to the duly elected magistrates
of Nova Roma for the year 2755 AUC.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates Novae
Romae, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium for
the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor
upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Valete, Tiberius Annaeus Otho

Lictor of Nova Roma

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Subject:	[novaroma] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Oath=20of=20Office=3A=20Lictor?=
From:	tiberius.ann@bluemail.ch
Date:	Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:46:15 +0100

-- Original-Nachricht --

>I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold the honor
of
>Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the people and the
>Senate of Nova Roma.
>
>As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho swear to honor the
>Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public dealings, and to pursue the Roman
>Virtues in my public and private life.
>
>I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho swear to uphold and defend the Religio Romana
as
>the State Religion of Nova Roma and swear never to act in a way that would
>threaten
>its status as the State Religion.
>
>I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho swear to protect and defend the Constitution of
>Nova
>Roma.
>
>I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho further swear to fulfill the obligations and
>responsibilities of the office of Lictor to the best of my abilities.
>
>On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the Gods
and
>Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor, do I accept
the
>position of Lictor and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and
>responsibilities attendant thereto.
>
>Gratias vobis ago, Tiberius Annaeus Otho
>
>Lictor Novae Romae
>
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Subject:	[novaroma] =?iso-8859-1?Q?INVESTMENT=20OF=20IMPERIUM?=
From:	tiberius.ann@bluemail.ch
Date:	Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:19:51 +0100

I, Tiberius Annaeus Otho, Lictor of Nova Roma and a member of the Comitia
Curiata, hereby witness and acknowledge the passing of Imperium - the power
to carry out elected duties and uphold the laws - to the duly elected magistrates
of Nova Roma for the year 2755 AUC.

May the Gods and the spirit of Roma Antiqua watch over the Magistrates
Novae Romae, and grant them the guidance and wisdom to use their Imperium
for the positive furtherance of Romanitas. May this sacred bond bring favor
upon our Nation and our Citizens in this coming year.

Valete, Tiberius Annaeus Otho

Lictor Novae Romae

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Subject:	[novaroma] Maps
From:	"quintus_prometheus" <egsharp@crosswinds.net>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:49:15 -0000

Salvete!

I know this might seem out of place on this particular mailing list,
but I'm looking for a map of the Roman Empire around the third
century AD (i.e. when the greatest area was covered). I know there is
a site that displays this, but the image is too fuzzy as it was
scanned, I need something I can read! If anyone knows of such a map,
or has a better place for me to post this message, please RE:!

Thanks in advance!

vis et honor
Quintus Prometheus Petrus


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: welcome back Draco
From:	"darkling_crawler" <hendrik.meuleman@pi.be>
Date:	Wed, 02 Jan 2002 22:11:19 -0000

Salvete omnes,

The exact reason why I did not wish to announce my return was because
of the - justified and understandable - reactions of doubt. Despite
my wish to not have it out in the open for a while, some blockhead
has not been able to honour that humble request and told it to people
that weren't even supposed to know. The consequences were
predictable, and again, understandable.

For that person who has ashamed my trust (I don't know who it is but
I only have a list of six people to choose from): I despise you.

To those who doubt my return: they have every right to do so. I have
nearly walked out of this place twice, and twice for more or less the
same reasons (with much at stake). Twice, the same people have
convinced me to return. But, the consequences are different. The
first time I returned, I intended to give myself once more in the
political life. Now I return to devote myself to the Religio and
culture alone, and do not have any political ambitions. In order to
make this change concrete, I have changed my name into M. Octavius
Solaris.

I don't beg for trust, grace or mercy, because there's none to be
found, and I wouldn't want it, either.

Valete bene,
M. Octavius Solaris


Subject:	[novaroma] Edictum: Appointments
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.com>
Date:	Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:19:59 -0600 (CST)

Edictum M. Octavii Germanici Consulis:

The following appointments are hereby made for the year MMDCCLV:

I. Senator Antonius Gryllus Graecus is appointed Accensus to
Consul M. Octavius.

II. Senator Marcus Minucius Audens is appointed Accensus to
Consul M. Octavius.

III. Quaestor Titus Octavius Pius is appointed Quaestor to
Consul M. Octavius.

M. Octavius Germanicus, Consul.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus
Consul of Nova Roma, MMDCCLV a.u.c.
Curator Araneum et Senator

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: welcome back Draco
From:	"Caius Cornelius Puteanus" <puteus@hotmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:47:27 +0100

Salve, Solaris!

I have discovered your return myself. I regularly check out the provincia
Gallia list and have noticed we had a new legatus (I mean a name that didn't
ring a bell). I have checked out the email address and it is yours, of
course. I am the one who brought this into the open. I think it is every
citizen's right, and especially the right of the cives of Gallia, to know
who their representatives are.

So may I ask you to stop looking for other people, whomever they might be.
You haven't asked me for my thrust, you haven't even told me about your
planned return. So please don't play the martyr here. Yesterday, I
apologised to you already, but I don't want to be called a blockhead or
whatever. If you have a fight to fight, fight it in the open, and not like a
coward in the dark!

I will stop aiming at you personally, since this has no meaning to me. But
please don't look with suspicion at these 'certain people'. They have dealt
with the issue correctly. They haven't told anyone. And I don't need anyone
to tell me that you came back, everyone can check out the site.

I have seen a lot of people are glad you came back. I welcomed you as well,
as in private as in public. Please don't start with a hugue fanfare as you
left, don't shout at people like you did then. Accept the apologies that are
offered to you, and accept the welcoming messages. There are meant with
earnestness, as it are Romans that express them, in all openness, not
hidden...

Vale bene!

Caius Cornelius Puteanus
www.geocities.com/puteanus/
www.geocities.com/Germania_Inferior/
----- Original Message -----
From: "darkling_crawler" <hendrik.meuleman@pi.be>
To: <novaroma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:11 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Re: welcome back Draco

> Salvete omnes,
>
> The exact reason why I did not wish to announce my return was because
> of the - justified and understandable - reactions of doubt. Despite
> my wish to not have it out in the open for a while, some blockhead
> has not been able to honour that humble request and told it to people
> that weren't even supposed to know. The consequences were
> predictable, and again, understandable.
>
> For that person who has ashamed my trust (I don't know who it is but
> I only have a list of six people to choose from): I despise you.
>
> To those who doubt my return: they have every right to do so. I have
> nearly walked out of this place twice, and twice for more or less the
> same reasons (with much at stake). Twice, the same people have
> convinced me to return. But, the consequences are different. The
> first time I returned, I intended to give myself once more in the
> political life. Now I return to devote myself to the Religio and
> culture alone, and do not have any political ambitions. In order to
> make this change concrete, I have changed my name into M. Octavius
> Solaris.
>
> I don't beg for trust, grace or mercy, because there's none to be
> found, and I wouldn't want it, either.
>
> Valete bene,
> M. Octavius Solaris
>
>
>


Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Maps
From:	"Caius Cornelius Puteanus" <puteus@hotmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:57:56 +0100

Salve!

Have you tried: www.geocities.com/puteanus/maps.html?

Vale bene!

Caius Cornelius Puteanus
www.geocities.com/puteanus/
www.geocities.com/Germania_Inferior/
----- Original Message -----
From: "quintus_prometheus" <egsharp@crosswinds.net>
To: <novaroma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:49 PM
Subject: [novaroma] Maps

> Salvete!
>
> I know this might seem out of place on this particular mailing list,
> but I'm looking for a map of the Roman Empire around the third
> century AD (i.e. when the greatest area was covered). I know there is
> a site that displays this, but the image is too fuzzy as it was
> scanned, I need something I can read! If anyone knows of such a map,
> or has a better place for me to post this message, please RE:!
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> vis et honor
> Quintus Prometheus Petrus
>
>
>

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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] Re: welcome back Draco
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:19:26 EST

In a message dated 1/3/02 9:08:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,
hendrik.meuleman@pi.be writes:

> I don't beg for trust, grace or mercy, because there's none to be
> found, and I wouldn't want it, either.
>
>

Again I say, thank you for not despairing the Republic.

Q. Fabius Maximus

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Subject:	[novaroma] I also welcome You back Solaris
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <tjalens.h@telia.com>
Date:	Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:22:16 +0100

Salve Amice!

I will say just one thing. You are welcome back among us! This is your
home! I was disappointed when You left. Stupid of me, but I am glad that
You are back now, so that I can welcome You back publicly! We want Nova
Roma to grow, if citizens have difficulties to leave that shows that there
is hope for this Res Publica! I am greatful that gens Octavia have given
You a haven. Honor to them! :-)

Some decent (I mean that they really do not mean any harm) persons will
have difficulty to understand. As You say that is understandable. In this
case I think that time will indeed heal the wounds.

>Salvete omnes,
>
>The exact reason why I did not wish to announce my return was because
>of the - justified and understandable - reactions of doubt. Despite
>my wish to not have it out in the open for a while, some blockhead
>has not been able to honour that humble request and told it to people
>that weren't even supposed to know. The consequences were
>predictable, and again, understandable.
>
>For that person who has ashamed my trust (I don't know who it is but
>I only have a list of six people to choose from): I despise you.
>
>To those who doubt my return: they have every right to do so. I have
>nearly walked out of this place twice, and twice for more or less the
>same reasons (with much at stake). Twice, the same people have
>convinced me to return. But, the consequences are different. The
>first time I returned, I intended to give myself once more in the
>political life. Now I return to devote myself to the Religio and
>culture alone, and do not have any political ambitions. In order to
>make this change concrete, I have changed my name into M. Octavius
>Solaris.
>
>I don't beg for trust, grace or mercy, because there's none to be
>found, and I wouldn't want it, either.
>
>Valete bene,
>M. Octavius Solaris
>
>
>
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Subject:	[novaroma] First Meeting of Regio Germ.Inferior
From:	"Milly Jansen" <millys2@hotmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2002 19:32:57 +0100

Salvete Quirites!

It is my pleasure to inform you about the (succesful) first meeting
of the Regio Germania Inferior.

We finally had the possibility to meet eachother face to face, to get to
know eachother better and talk about the future of this part of NR
we live in.

At this very moment things are getting very interesting in Germania
Inferior since we have experienced the rise of SVR (from which some
members are also civis of NR didn't show up at our meeting
eventually)...

We also discussed our position in Gallia of which we are part of
today. Most of our cives agree that the fact that the regio
Germania Inferior is part of the Provincia Gallia, is from a
historical point of view not correct. Some of us (though we respect
Lutecio highly) also felt little connection to the mostly
frenchspeaking Provincia Gallia since the cives in Flanders and the
Netherlands are dutchspeaking.

Last but not least I would like to wish you all a happy New Year and May the
Gods of Ancient Rome guide and protect Nova Roma!

valete bene!
Agrippina Iulia Germanica

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Subject:	[novaroma] appointment of scriba
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:44:12 +0000 (GMT)

Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix aedilis plebis omnibus
S.P.D.

I hereby appoint Tiberius Apollonius Callias as my
scriba.

This becomes effective immediately.

Done in the year of the consulship of Lucius Cornelius
Sulla Felix and Marcus Octavius Germanicus, 2755 AUC.

Valete bene

=====
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
Aedilis Plebis
civis Novae Romae
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Subject:	Re: [novaroma] welcome back Draco
From:	mike rasschaert <morosbe2001@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 2 Jan 2002 13:42:41 -0800 (PST)

Salve Caius
First of all, i know that you apologized about this
lettre but i want to remind you like you once did with
me, that it isn't our place to judge when someone
leaves Nova Roma and comes back. I did it and nobody
bother to say anything about it. You should do the
same thing. He gave up alot, yes but he must have his
reasons and if he doesn't want to share them with us.
I'm not gona. I though there was a law for people
coming back to Nova Roma for the third time but under
the same name, which was not allowed. I gues that
Draco/ Solaris knew this and changed his name for this
reason. And what the loyalty concern: Who are you to
question his loyalty. The man has a life outside Nova
Roma and if he is to busy to show up at a provincial
meeting, it means he other obligations. I haven't
shown up either, do you complain about that. I didn't
hear you complaining about it either. So you shouldn't
complain about Draco's loyalty when the Apollonia gens
has four inactive members who do not even a damn thing
to post anything. They probaly didn't show up on the
provincial meeting either, so did i hear you complain
about that. No. So what gives you the right to
complain about his loyalty when the loyalty of so many
others should be rightfully questioned. I know that
this kind of mail makes me less popular than i'm
already are, but i say what is on my mind even though
that happend in the past in the wrong way.
Vale bene in pax deorum
Tiberius Apollonius Callias

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Subject:	[novaroma] Re: welcome back Draco
From:	"darkling_crawler" <hendrik.meuleman@pi.be>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2002 18:42:23 -0000

Salvete omnes,

> For that person who has ashamed my trust (I don't know who it is
but
> I only have a list of six people to choose from): I despise you.
>

It appears that my return had been discovered accidentally.
Therefore, I don't need to despise anyone :).

Valete bene,
Solaris


Subject:	[novaroma] Re: welcome...
From:	Piparskeggr - Venator <catamount_grange@inwave.com>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2002 16:36:03 -0600

Salus et Fortuna Solaris,

darkling_crawler wrote:
>
> Salvete omnes,
>
> (excision)
>
> It appears that my return had been discovered accidentally.
> Therefore, I don't need to despise anyone :).
>
> Valete bene,
> Solaris
>

Well, regardless of the circumstance, I would like to add my voice to those welcoming you home.
I believe you to be Roman and a benefit to any community you chose to help.

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Subject:	[novaroma] Solo para hispanoparlantes. Just to spanish speaking people
From:	"luciuspompeius" <danielovi@yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 03 Jan 2002 23:35:30 -0000

Salvete
En la revista espa�ola "La aventura de la historia" del mes de Junio
(ac� en la Argentina lleg� reci�n ahora) hay un dossier muy
interesante sobre Trajano y Roma. Si lo pueden conseguir, no se lo
pierdan. Vale la pena.
Saludos
L.P.O.

Salvete.
In the spanish magazine "The adventure of history" of the month of
June ( here in Argentina we received it right now) there is a very
interesting dossier about the emperor Trajan and Rome. If you can get
it, do it! . It is really worth!!. (exclusively in Spanish)
Valete bene
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus