Subject: RE: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
From: Michael Loughlin <qccaesar@-------->
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:36:56 -0700 (PDT)
"However premature an act that maybe in forming a
committee for the Land Fund it is better safe than
sorry. Establishing such a committee, from MY point
of view, in advance would be better than creating it
once the funds are available. I feel that it would
just be easier to have that committee in place and
basically activate it once the funds are available
than going through the process of creating one once it
would be needed.
Quintus Cornelius Caesar

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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
From: Michael Loughlin <qccaesar@-------->
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:43:56 -0700 (PDT)
Well in response to Marcus Cornelius Tiberius, I take
no offense to your response if you felt you were being
rude in anyway. I will say that I am fairly new to
Nova Roma and therefore have not had the time to fully
look at any suggestions made for the idea of
purchasing land. However in response to the idea of
establishing a capitol land first I think a nation of
any sorts cannot establish a capitol until it has
aquired lands. If you were to establish a capitol
land first it would not allow all citizens the benefit
of seeing this capitol. Therefore it is wiser to
aquire several small lands initially and then
establish a sole capitol land. However I will
emphasize that this is my opinion and you don't have
to like it or agree with it. But, there is no harm in
criticizing it and expressing your point of view.
Quintus Cornelius Caesar

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Subject: RE: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
From: "Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:35:20 -0400
Salvete

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Loughlin [mailto:qccaesar@--------]
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:37 PM
>
> I feel that it would
> just be easier to have that committee in place and
> basically activate it once the funds are available
> than going through the process of creating one once it
> would be needed.

Indeed. And if we establish this committee now, and it doesn't have anything
to do for ten years, you think this a good thing? Cut those people who join
during the next decade out of the decision-making process, and potentially
include people who are no longer actively participating in Nova Roma? Heck,
for that matter, by your logic why don't we set up a committee for our space
program? Or our nuclear power program? Generals! We need generals to fill
the slots once we have need for a real military! Sorry; I stick with my
original assessment. Hold off forming a committee until there's something
for it to do.

Valete,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul


Subject: RE: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
From: "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@-------->
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:50:56 -0700 (PDT)

--- Flavius Vedius Germanicus
<germanicus@--------> wrote:
> Salvete
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Loughlin [mailto:qccaesar@--------]
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:37 PM
> >
> > I feel that it would
> > just be easier to have that committee in place and
> > basically activate it once the funds are available
> > than going through the process of creating one
> once it
> > would be needed.
>
> Indeed. And if we establish this committee now, and
> it doesn't have anything
> to do for ten years, you think this a good thing?
> Cut those people who join
> during the next decade out of the decision-making
> process, and potentially
> include people who are no longer actively
> participating in Nova Roma? Heck,
> for that matter, by your logic why don't we set up a
> committee for our space
> program? Or our nuclear power program? Generals! We
> need generals to fill
> the slots once we have need for a real military!
> Sorry; I stick with my
> original assessment. Hold off forming a committee
> until there's something
> for it to do.
>
> Valete,
>
> Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
> Consul


I Thought we already had a Land committee. I think
it's called the Senate. They are the ONLY body
authorized to spend the money to buy the land, and
they are the ones who will have to fund any costs
(Taxes, insurance, etc) that are associated with
owning land.

L. Sicinius Drusus
Propraetor America Austrorientalis


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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
From: "Gaius Cornelius Publicus" <gaius-cornelius-publicus@-------->
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:57:08 -0700
>Salvete
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Loughlin [mailto:qccaesar@--------]
>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:37 PM
>>
>> I feel that it would
>> just be easier to have that committee in place and
>> basically activate it once the funds are available
>> than going through the process of creating one once it
>> would be needed.
>
>Indeed. And if we establish this committee now, and it doesn't have
anything
>to do for ten years, you think this a good thing? Cut those people who join
>during the next decade out of the decision-making process, and potentially
>include people who are no longer actively participating in Nova Roma? Heck,
>for that matter, by your logic why don't we set up a committee for our
space
>program? Or our nuclear power program? Generals! We need generals to fill
>the slots once we have need for a real military! Sorry; I stick with my
>original assessment. Hold off forming a committee until there's something
>for it to do.
>
I already have the space program covered, as with all advanced technology a
benevolent imperial approach is better than a committee. :-)

(I might not be joking or talking about the sci-fi book I am writing, but
then again, maybe I am)

Seriously though, committee's with nothing to do for a long time period do
*tend* to devolve rapidly into a destructive spiral of bickering and
fighting.

Publicus
(hail me)



Subject: RE: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
From: "Flavius Vedius Germanicus" <germanicus@-------->
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:55:40 -0400
Precicely.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: L. Sicinius Drusus [mailto:lsicinius@--------]
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:51 PM
> To: novaroma@--------
> Subject: RE: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
>
>
>
> --- Flavius Vedius Germanicus
> <germanicus@--------> wrote:
> > Salvete
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Loughlin [mailto:qccaesar@--------]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:37 PM
> > >
> > > I feel that it would
> > > just be easier to have that committee in place and
> > > basically activate it once the funds are available
> > > than going through the process of creating one
> > once it
> > > would be needed.
> >
> > Indeed. And if we establish this committee now, and
> > it doesn't have anything
> > to do for ten years, you think this a good thing?
> > Cut those people who join
> > during the next decade out of the decision-making
> > process, and potentially
> > include people who are no longer actively
> > participating in Nova Roma? Heck,
> > for that matter, by your logic why don't we set up a
> > committee for our space
> > program? Or our nuclear power program? Generals! We
> > need generals to fill
> > the slots once we have need for a real military!
> > Sorry; I stick with my
> > original assessment. Hold off forming a committee
> > until there's something
> > for it to do.
> >
> > Valete,
> >
> > Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
> > Consul
>
>
> I Thought we already had a Land committee. I think
> it's called the Senate. They are the ONLY body
> authorized to spend the money to buy the land, and
> they are the ones who will have to fund any costs
> (Taxes, insurance, etc) that are associated with
> owning land.
>
> L. Sicinius Drusus
> Propraetor America Austrorientalis
>
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Subject: [novaroma] Latin Question
From: Charlie Collins <cotta@-------->
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:01:13 -0700
Salve,
Could one of the Latin brains out here tell me the Latin for "guard"
(like in Security Guard) is. I am planning on setting up my last e-mail
addy with SWBell(I get 1 Primary and 2 others free) and I want to use
"guard". I did find Custos, Custodis, and Excubiae. I found others but
they are to long to use(max of 8 letters in addy). Any ideas?

Vale,
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Subject: RE: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
From: Michael Loughlin <qccaesar@-------->
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:39:12 -0700 (PDT)
You do have a valid point in saying that forming this
committee now and if no action is taken for say a
decade as you mentioned then it certainly would cut
individuals out of the process. However, though I am
not disagreeing with you, I am giving my own personal
input as to what I think. Say this committee was
formed now. It would already be in place and ready to
go if the funds became available soon. Now using the
more realistic idea of the funds not becoming
available for quite some time, with the committee
already being place, legislation of sorts could be
laid out requiring that periodically this committee be
updated (I don't know how to term it exactly) and then
action could be taken concerning the real estate.
Quintus Cornelius Caesar

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Subject: RE: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
From: Michael Loughlin <qccaesar@-------->
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
I Thought we already had a Land committee. I think
it's called the Senate. They are the ONLY body
authorized to spend the money to buy the land, and
they are the ones who will have to fund any costs
(Taxes, insurance, etc) that are associated with
owning land.

L. Sicinius Drusus
Propraetor America Austrorientalis

Oay the Senate maybe the "ONLY body authorized to
spend the moneyto buy the land" but could a
sub-committee (dealing specifically with the land
fund) not be setup for the handling of that money with
the usage of that money receiving authorization from
the Senate and only the Senate.
Quintus Cornelius Caesar



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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Latin Question
From: "S. Apollonius Draco" <hendrik.meuleman@-------->
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 12:55:23 +0200
Salve,

> Salve,
> Could one of the Latin brains out here tell me the Latin for "guard"
> (like in Security Guard) is. I am planning on setting up my last e-mail
> addy with SWBell(I get 1 Primary and 2 others free) and I want to use
> "guard". I did find Custos, Custodis, and Excubiae. I found others but
> they are to long to use(max of 8 letters in addy). Any ideas?

The Latin for guard would be "custos", I think. Custodis seems like a
genetive to me (meaning "the guard's") and excubiae looks like a plural, so,
from the limited Latin I know, "custos" would be the best option.

Vale bene,
S. Apollonius Draco


Subject: Re: [novaroma] Latin Question
From: Lucilla Cornelia Cinna <CorneliaLucilla@-------->
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 13:24:45 +0200
Salve Sextus frater

Charlie Collins wrote:

>Could one of the Latin brains out here tell me the Latin for "guard"
>(like in Security Guard) is.
>
"Custos" is more like a single "guardian" a member of a "guard". Usually
I translate a term like guard with "custodia" as it is used for such
military units in Tacitus. Custodia literally means security guard.
And fortunately, it's got exactly 8 letters :o)

Bene vale

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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
From: "Teleri ferch Nyfain" <rckovak@-------->
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:29:34 -0400
Salvete,
I agree with this. If nothing else, such a committee could act as a fact-finding body right now, checking out legalities of owning land in various places, etc.

Valete,
Helena Galeria

"However premature an act that maybe in forming a
committee for the Land Fund it is better safe than
sorry. Establishing such a committee, from MY point
of view, in advance would be better than creating it
once the funds are available. I feel that it would
just be easier to have that committee in place and
basically activate it once the funds are available
than going through the process of creating one once it
would be needed.
Quintus Cornelius Caesar




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From: tiberius.ann@--------
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 16:39:34 +0200
Same feeling from me. I haven't finished studying yet, but what I know from
my Latin studies at the University, custos would be best.

Vale, TiAnO



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Subject: RE: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
From: Daniel Dreesbach <stakor2000@-------->
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 12:13:07 -0700 (PDT)


Flavius Vedius Germanicus <germanicus@--------> wrote: Salvete

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Loughlin [mailto:qccaesar@--------]
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:37 PM
>
> I feel that it would
> just be easier to have that committee in place and
> basically activate it once the funds are available
> than going through the process of creating one once it
> would be needed.

Indeed. And if we establish this committee now, and it doesn't have anything
to do for ten years, you think this a good thing? Cut those people who join
during the next decade out of the decision-making process, and potentially
include people who are no longer actively participating in Nova Roma? Heck,
for that matter, by your logic why don't we set up a committee for our space
program? Or our nuclear power program? Generals! We need generals to fill
the slots once we have need for a real military! Sorry; I stick with my
original assessment. Hold off forming a committee until there's something
for it to do.

Valete,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul


Subject: RE: [novaroma] Re: Land for Nova Roma
From: Daniel Dreesbach <stakor2000@-------->
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 12:13:47 -0700 (PDT)

The committee could be the focal point for fundraising for land.

Gauis Geminius Germanus
Flavius Vedius Germanicus <germanicus@--------> wrote: Salvete

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Loughlin [mailto:qccaesar@--------]
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:37 PM
>
> I feel that it would
> just be easier to have that committee in place and
> basically activate it once the funds are available
> than going through the process of creating one once it
> would be needed.

Indeed. And if we establish this committee now, and it doesn't have anything
to do for ten years, you think this a good thing? Cut those people who join
during the next decade out of the decision-making process, and potentially
include people who are no longer actively participating in Nova Roma? Heck,
for that matter, by your logic why don't we set up a committee for our space
program? Or our nuclear power program? Generals! We need generals to fill
the slots once we have need for a real military! Sorry; I stick with my
original assessment. Hold off forming a committee until there's something
for it to do.

Valete,

Flavius Vedius Germanicus,
Consul