Subject: [novaroma] Para Alejandro Marin
From: "Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <octavianuslucius@-------->
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:50:25 -0000
Salvus sis Aule Flavi Germanice
Bienvenido a Nova Roma. He leído que vives en Costa Rica. Hoy te
envié un "replay" a tu mensaje, pero como todavía no llegó a
egroups,
decidí ennviartelo de nuevo. Yo soy de Buenos Aires, Argentina, y
soy
ciudadano desde el mes de abril. Hay otros hispanoparlantes aqui en
NR. Si te interesa puedes fijarte en el Album civium.
Saludos cordiales
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus


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Subject: [novaroma] Gladiator redubbing
From: exitil@--------
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:45:33 EDT
Well, as far as I know the suggestion someone made about making a
Latin-translated version of Gladiator hasn't come to be, but why not make
this a Nova Roma project? Get a couple people to translate, a half dozen or
so people to do the voices of the main characters, redub it, and sell it -
work out some sort of deal with the makers of Gladiator regarding sharing of
profits?

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Subject: [novaroma] reply option in this list
From: "Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <octavianuslucius@-------->
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:59:40 -0000
L. Pompeius Octavianus omnibus novormanis S.P.D.
I'm having problems with the "reply" option here at egroups. My
replies do not appear. I worked it out by posting without replying. I
would like to know if somebody else is having the same problem in
this list.
Valete bene



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Subject: Re: [novaroma] reply option in this list
From: "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@-------->
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:06:55 -0700
Ave,

Its becuase P. Cassia, our list moderator changed the reply to feature. So
that if you just hit reply it goes ONLY to the person who sent the post.
Not to the list. I was hoping that there would be a poll to get people's
opinion on this subject. I know Senator Ericius requested it..and I would
like to second his motion about a poll...since quite a few citizens voiced
their thoughts on this.....my personal opinion is that it should go back to
the way it was. :)

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <octavianuslucius@-------->
To: <novaroma@-------->
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 5:59 PM
Subject: [novaroma] reply option in this list


> L. Pompeius Octavianus omnibus novormanis S.P.D.
> I'm having problems with the "reply" option here at egroups. My
> replies do not appear. I worked it out by posting without replying. I
> would like to know if somebody else is having the same problem in
> this list.
> Valete bene
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Subject: Re: [novaroma] reply option in this list
From: "Tiberius Hibernius Gladius Mortifer" <tiberius@-------->
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:27:17 -0400
Salve,

I have long noticed this on many egroups lists I have been on... hitting
"reply" often only sends your reply to original poster. Solutions? Hit
"reply to all"... or hit "reply", erase the email address in the to: field
and substitute the address of the list.

Vale

-----Original Message-----
From: Lucius Pompeius Octavianus <octavianuslucius@-------->
To: novaroma@-------- <novaroma@-------->
Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:01 PM
Subject: [novaroma] reply option in this list


>L. Pompeius Octavianus omnibus novormanis S.P.D.
>I'm having problems with the "reply" option here at egroups. My
>replies do not appear. I worked it out by posting without replying. I
>would like to know if somebody else is having the same problem in
>this list.
>Valete bene
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Subject: [novaroma] Re: reply option in this list
From: "Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <octavianuslucius@-------->
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:48:50 -0000
Salve Tiberi Hiberni Gladi Mortifer
Thank you very much for your advice. I'm already using it with this
reply.
Vale bene
L. Pompeius Octavianus

--- In novaroma@--------, "Tiberius Hibernius Gladius Mortifer"
<tiberiu--------..> wrote:
> Salve,
>
> I have long noticed this on many egroups lists I have been on...
hitting
> "reply" often only sends your reply to original poster.
Solutions? Hit
> "reply to all"... or hit "reply", erase the email address in the
to: field
> and substitute the address of the list.
>
> Vale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luc--------Pompe--------Octav--------s <octav--------sluc---------------->
> To: novaroma@-------- <novaroma@-------->
> Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:01 PM
> Subject: [novaroma] reply option in this list
>
>
> >L. Pompeius Octavianus omnibus novormanis S.P.D.
> >I'm having problems with the "reply" option here at egroups. My
> >replies do not appear. I worked it out by posting without
replying. I
> >would like to know if somebody else is having the same problem in
> >this list.
> >Valete bene
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >


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Subject: [novaroma] Re: Caesar and the universe.
From: Megas-Robinson <amgunn@-------->
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:53:03 -0500
Got caught by the new "Reply" protocol.

>
> Avete omnes, scriptoi te salutant!
>
> Venator hic:
>
> If I may add another pebble to those being tossd in the pond?
>
> I offer a precis of my understanding of the Germanic view of time.
>
> There is the Past, That Which has Become, the contents of the Well of Wyrd. There is the Present, That Which is
> Becoming. There is no set Future, there is That Which May Become. The Past is an ever-growing repository of Deeds, an
> ever-deepening of the Well.
>
> The Norse mythology does contain a Creation, in which existed Fire, Ice and Ginungagap, the Abyss. The interaction of
> Fire and Ice started a series of events which led to Life and Life created the World and the life within it.
>
> Norse cosmology also contains an end to things, the Ragnarok, which results in the destruction of the current
> incarnation of Life and World and the re-creation of these. This is part of a cycle of Birth, Existence, Destruction,
> Re-Birth - a very old concept in Indo-European mythologies.
>
> I personaly believe that there is/was an Initial Causation, ultimately Unknown and Unknowable. All else comes
> therefrom. My Gods, and all Gods, stem from Life as a force. They as Oldest life, bring to fruition that which we
> perceive, that which we are.
>
> These things I Believe, and I can only Know that which I Believe.
>
> In Fraternitas Philosophicus - Venii

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Subject: [novaroma] Re: Gladiator commercial
From: Megas-Robinson <amgunn@-------->
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:55:43 -0500
Inattention to detail again!

>
> Ave P. Cassia!
>
> "pjane@--------" wrote:
> >
> > This probably is irrelevant to non-U.S. citizens, but has anyone else
> > seen the new Nike commercial where the kid on the skateboard is being
> > chased by a gladiator? It's really cool - without words, they set up
> > the situation, show the kid making several narrow escapes, then
> > suggest that the gladiator is all in the kid's imagination. The last
> > thing you see is his full-face helmet peeking out from behind a
> > building...
> >
> > Best thing I've seen on television in some time, sad to say.
> >
> > P. Cassia
>
> You got in ahead of me. Saw the whole commercial for the first time today.
> I epecially liked the equestrian gladiator.
>
> In felicitas - Venii

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Subject: [novaroma] Infinite Universe Discussion
From: Lykaion1@--------
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:36:47 EDT
Salvete,

I am very much enjoying our discussion here. Seeing a box full of email
and perusing it's contents, it is obvious to me I cannot respond quickly. I
will have a response up by this weekend when work is not an obstacle.

And it appears Vado and I are agreeing on something. Perhaps the Gods have
just been proven to exist! :}

Festus

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Subject: Re: [novaroma] Re: Gladiator commercial
From: scott dolleck <sdolzg@-------->
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:56:21 -0700 (PDT)
--- Megas-Robinson <amgunn@--------> wrote:
> Inattention to detail again!
>
> >
> > Ave P. Cassia!
> >
> > "pjane@--------" wrote:
> > >
> > > This probably is irrelevant to non-U.S.
> citizens, but has anyone else
> > > seen the new Nike commercial where the kid on
> the skateboard is being
> > > chased by a gladiator? It's really cool -
> without words, they set up
> > > the situation, show the kid making several
> narrow escapes, then
> > > suggest that the gladiator is all in the kid's
> imagination.

Ave,

The buy line is "you might run in to a gladiator."
this means his competition might be someone tough,
like a gladiator.that was the point they were making.

I just had to clear that up...being in the advertising
business and all.

Lucius



The last
> > > thing you see is his full-face helmet peeking
> out from behind a
> > > building...
> > >
> > > Best thing I've seen on television in some time,
> sad to say.
> > >
> > > P. Cassia
> >
> > You got in ahead of me. Saw the whole commercial
> for the first time today.
> > I epecially liked the equestrian gladiator.
> >
> > In felicitas - Venii
>


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Subject: [novaroma] New Citizens
From: "Pompeia Cornelia" <scriba_forum@-------->
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 02:01:59 GMT
Salvete Omnes:

Within the past little while, there have been several new citizens who have
posted announcements about their being new to Nova Roma.

Unfortunately, due to work and other concerns, I am afraid that I have not
taken the time for something very important.....welcoming you all to Nova
Roma.

Please accept my belated welcome :) with my apologies. It is good to have
you a part of our great nation.

If you have any questions, please feel free to post them to the list.
If I can be of any assistance to you in Nova Roma, just post me and I shall
get back to you as soon as possible.

Bene valete!
Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
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Subject: [novaroma] Greetings from a relative New Comer
From: blackuni@--------
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:33:40 -0000
Hello all, I am Gaia Natalina Casca. I've been a member for a while,
but have just gotten my life all straightened out to allow me a
little
bit of time to participate.

I just thought I'd take a moment and introduce myself...I'll bee
around!


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Subject: Re: [novaroma] reply option in this list
From: "J. T. Sibley" <jrsibley@-------->
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:20:44 -0400
Salvete omnes!

"L. Cornelius Sulla" wrote:

> Ave,
>
> Its becuase P. Cassia, our list moderator changed the reply to feature. So
> that if you just hit reply it goes ONLY to the person who sent the post.
> Not to the list. I was hoping that there would be a poll to get people's
> opinion on this subject. I know Senator Ericius requested it..and I would
> like to second his motion about a poll...since quite a few citizens voiced
> their thoughts on this.....my personal opinion is that it should go back to
> the way it was. :)

And I third it! I will sometimes draft off a nice juicy letter/reply and have
it go only to the person who had posted what I'm replying to.

valete,

S. Ambrosia Fulvia



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Subject: [novaroma] Germanic view of Time?
From: "Nick Ford" <gens_moravia@-------->
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:52:53 +0100
Venator et alibus amicis salutem

What Venator tossed into the waters yesterday has caused me to see some intriguing ripples...

Language expresses thought, and thought is in turn conditioned by language.

Another heathen friend of mine (in Britannia) who is a linguistics graduate, once observed to me that the Germanic languages - of which English is one - reveal a different traditional, cultural attitude to time from that evinced by Latin-derived languages.

In these latter (and in Greek, as well), verbs have future tenses. This indicates that a future action is assumed to be definite - id est, it is going to happen. In the Germanic languages, however, you can't do this with future time. You have to say, for example:

I shall get drunk tonight (expressing probability - 'shall' belongs to the same root as 'should');
I will get drunk tonight (expressing intention - 'will' means 'to wish');
I may get drunk tonight (expressing possibility).
I can get drunk tonight (expressing potentiality).

You can just about get away with expressing future near-certainty by saying something like:

I am going to get drunk tonight,

but English - being rather a hybrid tongue - has tried to borrow the Latin sense of future immutability by stretching the verb 'to go' just about as far as it CAN go. Even then, what we really have here is only a sense of the speaker setting out on a journey, the intended destination of which is drunkenness. You see, it's still far from certain whether it is really going to happen or not. Other Germanic languages, being far less influenced by Latin-based language than English, don't even have this option.

Try to be any more definite than that about the future in a Germanic language, and you'll find you are making a vow (which is a matter of huge cultural importance to the heathen North Europeans, but not half so much to mediterranean Greeks and Latins).

The same observations are true of Welsh and, I assume, the other Celtic languages. No future tenses to verbs.

So there you have it, populari - the 'civilized' Graeco-Romans of Southern and Eastern Europe would seem to have a fatalistic way of expressing future events, while the 'barbari' of Northern and Western Europe seem to believe in a mutable future. Or, it seems that the Latins have a cultural mindset which regards the future as knowable, while the Northerners don't.

Avete

Vado (student of many things, a Master in none).




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