| Subject: |
Pyment |
| From: |
"Don and Crys Meaker" mater@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:59:55 -0500 |
|
Salvete,
Does anyone still have the Pyment recipe Venator posted about 6
months ago?? Please email it to me if you do.
Crys
Gaius Cornelius Mamertinus and Amethystia Iunia-Cornelia Crystallina
Roman, let this be your care, your art: To beat down the proud, and teach the ways of peace.
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| Subject: |
Re: the comitiae. A senatoral priority? |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:17:25 EDT |
|
In a message dated 6/16/99 7:36:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=132233234213056031213038109248086208071048" >Donmeaker@--------</a> writes:
<< Gold Lame toga? Would you go as C-3P-us? >>
Sweetie, I was golden before that queenie droid ever came on the scene!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Annals of Nova Roma |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:22:02 EDT |
|
I just read the Annals of Nova Roma on the web page!
My sincere applause for a job well done is extended to Gangalus for compiling
some of the most heated debates in Nova Roma over the last year and for doing
so in a completely objective manner.
Huzzah!
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: Annals of Nova Roma |
| From: |
Gail and Thomas Gangale gangale@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:43:02 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salve, Dexippe.
Gratias tibi ago! It was easy for me to be objective when I was so new to
Nova Roma, and for that reason, I wish I had been able to write more of the
Annal for the year MMDCCLI before I took on magisterial duties. Still, with
regard to events that occurred before and shortly after I came to Nova Roma,
I hope I'll be able to maintain the same level of objectivity... if I can
find the time to write! However, both because I have other demands on my
time now, as well as being more involved in the historical events of Nova
Roma (and thus less likely to be objective), I hope someone will come
forward to write the Annal for the current year MMDCCLII.
Vale,
Marcus Martianus Gangalius
At 10:22 AM 6/17/99 EDT, <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------; wrote:
>From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------;
>
>I just read the Annals of Nova Roma on the web page!
>
>My sincere applause for a job well done is extended to Gangalus for compiling
>some of the most heated debates in Nova Roma over the last year and for doing
>so in a completely objective manner.
>
>Huzzah!
>
>--Dexippus
>
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| Subject: |
Annals of Nova Roma |
| From: |
"Antonio Grilo" amg@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:05:09 +0100 |
|
Salvete
I also loved to read the Annals. It's very objective, although sometimes it
really appears as a true chronicle with many personal comments from the
author (which I enjoyed very much, no matter if I personally agree or not).
Valete
Antonius Gryllus Graecus
P.S. I'm eager to see the next chapters =)
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| Subject: |
(Fwd) [pagantable] OT Ten Commandments |
| From: |
"Don and Crys Meaker" mater@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:54:40 -0500 |
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From: "Charles & Aj Brokaw" <<a href="/post/novaroma?prote--------=014212253163158086015102190036129" >brokaw@--------</a>
According the Associated Press the House voted today to allow
the 10
Commandments to be posted in court houses and schools. It was
an
amendment to a juvenile crime bill allowing states to decide
whether or
not to allow such postings on government property. This posting is
supposed to reinstill the value of human life in children. Rep. Bob
Barr
said that if they had been posted in Columine the shoots would
have never
happened.
Can you believe this?! What happened to the separation of Church
and
state?!
B*B--Kat
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Roman, let this be your care, your art: To beat down the proud, and teach the ways of peace.
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| Subject: |
Children in Ancient Rome |
| From: |
"Don and Crys Meaker" mater@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:08:30 -0500 |
|
Salvete,
I just got a new book, called Marriage, Divorce and Children in
Ancient Rome. I am hoping to get something I can use on my
website. I also ordered the not-yet-published book -- Ancient
Rome : The Collected Letters and Mementos of an Ancient Roman
Child by Fiona MacDonald which I also have high hopes for (when
it'll come out and get sent is beyond me <G>.
Just wanted to share, I'm so excited!!
Valete,
Crys
Gaius Cornelius Mamertinus and Amethystia Iunia-Cornelia Crystallina
Roman, let this be your care, your art: To beat down the proud, and teach the ways of peace.
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| Subject: |
citizenship |
| From: |
"Paul LeCorde" paul_lecorde@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:10:14 -0700 |
|
Salute Omnes!
Can anyone give me an idea of how long it takes to
process applications for citizenship? There is a
potential new member to the gens Cordia who states
he sent in the application "some time ago" and hasn't
heard back yet. I was just wanting to get an idea
of the turn around time for applications.
(tibi) Gratias (ago),
Paul
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| Subject: |
Re: citizenship |
| From: |
"Don and Crys Meaker" mater@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:17:28 -0500 |
|
On 17 Jun 99, at 11:10, Paul LeCorde wrote:
> Can anyone give me an idea of how long it takes to
> process applications for citizenship? There is a
> potential new member to the gens Cordia who states
> he sent in the application "some time ago" and hasn't
> heard back yet. I was just wanting to get an idea
> of the turn around time for applications.
I think this is a good question. I know Don's citizenship has been
approved, but that's only because a couple of people told me and
then someone official emailed us.
<G> :::HUMOR WARNING::::: <G>
When the HADES am I getting my personalized letter and decoder
ring??????????????????????
Crys
Gaius Cornelius Mamertinus and Amethystia Iunia-Cornelia Crystallina
Roman, let this be your care, your art: To beat down the proud, and teach the ways of peace.
Virgil
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| Subject: |
Re: Children in Ancient Rome |
| From: |
"Paul LeCorde" paul_lecorde@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:18:51 -0700 |
|
I have a question about the practical application of
the Roman tradition of the Bulla. Considering the
fact that babies like to put things in their mouths, I wonder if it would be considered safe to put a
necklace on a newborns today. Does anyone
have any thoughts on this? Additionally, what
age would you consider safe to have a child
begin wearing a necklace safely.
Thanks,
Paul
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| Subject: |
Hey military guys!! |
| From: |
"Don and Crys Meaker" mater@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:24:39 -0500 |
|
Salvete,
Were there child slaves in the military? Galley slaves or
something? What did they do? etc. HELP
Crys
Gaius Cornelius Mamertinus and Amethystia Iunia-Cornelia Crystallina
Roman, let this be your care, your art: To beat down the proud, and teach the ways of peace.
Virgil
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| Subject: |
Re: citizenship |
| From: |
Gail and Thomas Gangale gangale@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:32:10 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Fear not. I have every confidence that it shall be done on the Greek Kalends.
Martianus
At 11:10 AM 6/17/99 -0700, Paul LeCorde wrote:
>From: "P--------LeCorde" <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=197166044078159153184102065148081239136144139046209" >p--------lecorde@--------</--------;
>
>Salute Omnes!
>
>Can anyone give me an idea of how long it takes to
>process applications for citizenship? There is a
>potential new member to the gens Cordia who states
>he sent in the application "some time ago" and hasn't
>heard back yet. I was just wanting to get an idea
>of the turn around time for applications.
>
>(tibi) Gratias (ago),
>Paul
>
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| Subject: |
Re: Children in Ancient Rome |
| From: |
"Don and Crys Meaker" mater@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:39:25 -0500 |
|
On 17 Jun 99, at 11:18, Paul LeCorde wrote:
>
> I have a question about the practical application of
> the Roman tradition of the Bulla. Considering the
> fact that babies like to put things in their mouths, I wonder if it would
> be considered safe to put a necklace on a newborns today. Does anyone
> have any thoughts on this? Additionally, what age would you consider safe
> to have a child begin wearing a necklace safely.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
First I would dare say nobody thought much about child safety
back then. Lapis has a bulla and a fibula They are tucked away
until he is old enough to have a cape and wear the bulla. Lapis
puts everything in his mouth. Terry didn't have that problem.
Lapis is also a grabber. Hair, ears, noses, bullas, collars, fingers
......... He would have to wait a while before I could be assured he
wouldn't hang himself! Again, I didn't have that problem with Terry.
If she had had a bulla, she may even have worn it.
As for the age thing. Well, Terry won't have anything around her
neck, but some children wear necklaces at a very young age. I
suppose it depends on the child first and the parents (and their
level of acceptance and common sense) second.
My 2 cents
Crys (bout as close to an ancient roman child expert as you can
get -- or so I'm told <G>)
Gaius Cornelius Mamertinus and Amethystia Iunia-Cornelia Crystallina
Roman, let this be your care, your art: To beat down the proud, and teach the ways of peace.
Virgil
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| Subject: |
Re: citizenship |
| From: |
"Publius Phillipus Varrus" legate@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:05:34 -0400 |
|
It took no more than two weeks for me to become a citizen about a month
ago...
Whether that is normal or not, who can say? :) Maybe making my own gens
sped up the process somewhat.
Publius Phillipus Varrus
----- Original Message -----
From: P--------LeCorde <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=197166044078159153184102065148081239136144139046209" >p--------lecorde@--------</--------;
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 2:10 PM
Subject: [novaroma] citizenship
> Can anyone give me an idea of how long it takes to
> process applications for citizenship? There is a
> potential new member to the gens Cordia who states
> he sent in the application "some time ago" and hasn't
> heard back yet. I was just wanting to get an idea
> of the turn around time for applications.
|
| Subject: |
Re: citizenship |
| From: |
missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:43:08 -0500 (CDT) |
|
>
><G> :::HUMOR WARNING::::: <G>
>
>When the HADES am I getting my personalized letter and decoder
>ring??????????????????????
Heck, I'm in the Senate and I never even found out about the Secret Handshake.
-- Flavia Claudia
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| Subject: |
Re: citizenship |
| From: |
"RCW" alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:25:13 -0700 |
|
LOL no comment as to what I think it would be hehheheheheh....LOL
L. Cornelius Sulla
Praetor Urbanus
----- Original Message -----
From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [novaroma] citizenship
> From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=029176066112038190112158203026129208071" >m--------oon@--------</a>
>
> >
> ><G> :::HUMOR WARNING::::: <G>
> >
> >When the HADES am I getting my personalized letter and decoder
> >ring??????????????????????
>
> Heck, I'm in the Senate and I never even found out about the Secret
Handshake.
>
> -- Flavia Claudia
>
>
>
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| Subject: |
Re: citizenship |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:29:29 -0400 (EDT) |
|
Neither of you should be all that excited about the decoder ring. I got
mine the other day, but I think the words on the back say, "The Lone
Ranger", but who cares??
I got my ring,
I got my ring,
I got my ring!!!!!!
(He said jumping widly up and down like a dumb little kid)
M. M. Audens (He's so cute when he's excited!!)
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Legionary Brand |
| From: |
"Publius Phillipus Varrus" legate@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:08:42 -0400 |
|
I've read a couple mentions of a brand ( or possibly ) tattoo that members
of a Legion were given...
If this is a fact, does anyone know where it was applied, what the ceremony
involved was and what the brand looked like?
Publius Phillipus Varrus
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| Subject: |
naughty Latin |
| From: |
Patrick Dunn saevvs@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:52:30 PDT |
|
>Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:56:26 EDT
> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=132056131009152219130232203140129208071" >Dexippus@--------</--------;
>Subject: A question of Latin
>
>Do any Latin buffs know a latin word that is derogatory of "homosexual" or
>"gay"?
>
>Please respond to me in private as this shouldn't be made a big topic for
>this list.
>
>And before anyone gets their panties in an uproar over this...it is for
>historical reasons!...and remember just who it is that is asking! : )
>
>--Dexippus
>Divus Maximus Extremus
I doubt that there is one. AFter all, the idea of homosexuality as an
orientation popped into the collective unconscious sometimes in the 1800s.
Still, you could certainly coin one. Latin is infinitely flexible (much
like English) in that ability.
For a game I played online once I used Paedicator, but I think that might be
wrong in several ways, not all of them ethical. :)
--M. Gladius Paedicator
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| Subject: |
Re: Hey military guys!! |
| From: |
Razenna razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:49:34 -0700 |
|
As a slave society Roma Antica would have had slaves with the army. There were no slaves
IN the army. It has been debated what proportion of a Roman line of march would have been
slaves. It undoubtedly varied according to time period, and quality of the army, and the
general. Better armies have smaller proportion of non-combatants. The dudes in the gold
breastplates would have had a bunch of slaves around them.
Slave children...? As old Cicero put it, a slave is a tool. What use would child tools
have been in an army? Also, what age is the cut off for a "child"? A Roman male took on
his toga virilis around puberty, call it 13, could be earlier. To Roma Antica that is not
a child but an adult. And for a tool (slave) it wouldn't matter. What would matter is
how much work could be gotten out of the poor wretch before it was cast aside. Definitely
not a part of Roman society we want to get into.
What did they do? The child slaves would have been of little use in labor, but they would
have been so employed. The child slaves who worked "in the big house" would probably have
been "entertainers" [nudge, nudge, wink, wink]; musicians, dancers, etc. But this is only
what of City foofraws was brought into the filed. In a real fighting army it is possible
that a specialist slave might have a slave who was an apprentice. (Yes. Slaves could own
slaves.) The physicians were often slaves. I recall one famous physician in Rome who
sold himself into slavery for the purpose of learning medicine. Then he saved his money,
bought his freedom, set up business in Rome and became rich and famous. Any of the
specialties that might have been done by slaves could have had slave child apprentices.
But again, the catching point is this being With An Army. (If you haven't figured out I'm
typing this as I recall it, I'll tell you now. I am. I'm NOT inventing this, just
recalling from 40 plus years of reading.) Of course much of the Imperial ARmy service was
in fairly permanent base camps. Complete societies grew outside the walls of the castra.
...
There were also No Galley slaves. Galley slaves came about with the enlightened
Renaissance. The oarsmen in ancient times were Free men. Forget Ben Hur, as history --
it's a fun flick.
I leave off here and let Fabius have his turn. And Audens. And maybe Marius Fimbria will
want to chime in too.
Valete.
C. Aelius Ericius.
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| Subject: |
Legionary Brand |
| From: |
"Publius Phillipus Varrus" legate@-------- |
| Date: |
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:08:42 -0400 |
|
I've read a couple mentions of a brand ( or possibly ) tattoo that members
of a Legion were given...
If this is a fact, does anyone know where it was applied, what the ceremony
involved was and what the brand looked like?
Publius Phillipus Varrus
|
