Subject: Re: Turning the other Cheek
From: "Nicolaus Moravius" n_moravius@--------
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:47:44 PDT
Salvete!

Scripsit nobis Dexippus:

>And without getting into rhetoric about it, I will only say that I am a
>Pagan. I am not a Christian. I do not hold to any Christian doctrine
>or teachings. I am not a Pascifist. I am not an idealist. I am not
>going to "turn the other cheek" so to speak.We have
>our dignitas but this does not necessarily dictate that we should act
>in accordance to their code of ethics.

- I used to be a Nazarene, and my view was (and is) that turning the other cheek (metaphorically, initial forbearance - let's not be fundamentalist about this) gives one time to reflect on what to do after
the other cheek has been smitten (face it, it usually is). A whole range of possibilities opens up. Continued forbearance is only one option. Not responding in haste or in kind is not exclusively a Christian response, is it? As I see it, what Gangalius proposes is perfectly in accord with the virtus dignitatis.

Et respondit Rusticus:
>
>This sounds like the steep and thorny way to Elysium.
>One could make it a picnic and stop along the way to
>weave tiaras out of the surrounding briars.

- Tell me Iesus isn't in Elysium with the other heroes when you get there, Rustice!

Bene valete in pace deorum,

Vado.




Subject: FoxNews
From: jmath669642reng@--------)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:16:02 -0400 (EDT)
This has been a most interesting, if just a tiny bit confusing, thread.
I am not sure what started it, outside of the term Foxnews. Could
someone give me a thumbnail sketch to bring me up to speed?

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!




Subject: Re: FoxNews
From: Dexippus@--------
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:30:35 EDT
In --------ss--------d-------- 4/27/99 11:46:27 PM E--------rn D--------ght Time, <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------;
writes:

<< If we have a knee jerk reaction every time people attack our beliefs,
we'll
spend the time running back in forth putting out little brush fires by
correcting those who won't, don't, can't understand. And I have more
valuable things to do with my time to then stamp out fires. >>

Yes, but if you ignor the little brush fires, soon they develop into an
inferno that you can not control.

--Dexippus
"Never again the Burning Times!"



Subject: Re: Flora
From: Oplontian@--------
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:39:01 EDT
Salvete citizens,
Today is the first day of the Floral Games - the Ludi Florales, or Floralia.
In the old days there were five days of theatrical presentations, with
chariot races on the sixth day. Since no one else on the list has mentioned
Flora today, I will offer you a meditation on the coming of the goddess.
Behold, Flora comes, the goddess of a thousand flowers, lady of a thousand
blossoms.
Crocus and hyacinth spring forth at each step.
Her radiance is like a sunflower,
Like golden yellow marigolds and chrysanthemums shining in the sun.
Her touch is like the coolness of peony petals and tulips.
She brings the fragrance of violet and rose,
Of lilac, lavender, and lily.
She dances in the dark greenness of the forest and woodland depths,
And in the bright sunlight of flower filled meadows.
She is the goddess of flowers.
She causes all things to grow, and blossom, and flourish.
The goddess comes, Flora, dressed in garlands of a thousand flowers.
Celebrate spring, the season of flowers, the season of growth and new
beginnings.
Decorate your home and altar with flowers and garlands.
Burn floral scented candles and incense.
Wear a floral crown, and adorn your body with scented oils and colored robes.
Dance and make love in the cool darkness of spring nights,
And in the sparkling sunshine of spring days.
Crocus and lily.
Narcissus and hyacinth.
Iris and daisy.
Oleander and myrtle.
Violets and roses.
Green leaves and pink petals against ivory skin.
White and gold against bronze.
Flora, great one !
She comes !
She is here !

Valete,
Quintus Poppaeus Sabinus




Subject: Re: Flora
From: SFP55@--------
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:44:30 EDT
In a message dated 4/28/99 6:42:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=000154235007078134036098066248147208071048" >Oplonti--------...</--------; writes:

<< with chariot races on the sixth day. >>


I'll see what I can do.

Q. Fabius.



Subject: Re: the Races (Was Flora)
From: Razenna razenna@--------
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:42:26 -0700
Salvete.

On the teams...
There were only four colors through the period of the Republic and the early Principate.
How about some races with the four traditional Red, White, Green and Blue teams? Not that
it matters that much to me. I'm a Green, most often.

Valete,
Ericius

<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------; wrote:

> From: <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------;
>
> In a message dated 4/28/99 6:42:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> <--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=000154235007078134036098066248147208071048" >Oplonti--------...</--------; writes:
>
> << with chariot races on the sixth day. >>
>
> I'll see what I can do.
>
> Q. Fabius.
>
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