| Subject: |
Re: The Senate In Republican Rome |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 02:22:57 -0500 (EST) |
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Salve, C. Aelius Ericus;
I thank you kindly for your compliments. I agree that more of this kind
of information should be provided on the net, but research is never as
juicy as scandal and / or controversey. In a scandal everyone wants to
know what happeed so they may appear to be more informed than their
neighbor, and in controversey we all are so interested in what we wish
to say, that we sometimes forget to listen carefully to the other
fellow's ideas. I find myself doing that quite a bit and sometinmes
have to sit on my hands to keep my response quiet until I have thought
about what is on my screen. Beside that kind of excitement, historical
vignettes are pretty tame. Add to that there are those who do not
really appreciate politics or politicians for whatever reason, it is not
a general topic of casual interest. Either you are, or you are not.
It's like Roman Engineering, usually a little goes a long ways, but if
you are into it, you literaly can't get enough!!!
I think perhaps that you and I have enough on your plate without my
ading any further Military Flyers to complicate your life. I will take
a little more time and see if I can't come up with a professional piece
as Cassius was able to do..
Thanks again for your kind words;
Very Respectfully
Macus Minucius Audens
Quaestor
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Porta Maggiore |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 03:08:43 -0500 (EST) |
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Salve, My Felicitations Ian Hutchinson;
Excellent Site!! I have viewed it and copied all three pages to be used
in the Roman Engineering papers / research being gathered under the
Sodalitas Militarium. If anyone has any suggestions about similar
sites, I would certainly like to hear about them. The site was well
done, of course, but the magnificance of the gate after all these years
springs out of the picture at you, and the original diagrm is an
excellent basis for discussion of the Roman Arch. Well Done Sir!!, Well
Done!!!!
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: SC&C #5: Well Come & Avete! |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 03:25:54 -0500 (EST) |
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Venator;
We have had some discussion lately about Garum (fish sauce) and similar
recipes from Indo-China. I read somewhere that shipping jars had been
recovered with fish sauce residue in the bottom as a dried crust. It is
said that it was identified by the tiny fish bones imbedded in the
crust. To me that would indicate that the fish was ground up in the
sauce, not merely salted and pressed. I have two questions:
1. What is the recipe again for the production of the sauce. I think
that I would like to try it; in moderation of course; (The last note
that a similar sauce used on a hamburger did not affect the taste of the
hamburger except to make it a little saltier has made me a little
bolder, and I was wondering if it would add to the taste of a cod or
clam chowder, or perhaps a boullobaise.)
2. Have you ever heard of the residue (see above) being analyzed as to
the contents of the original fish sauce?
Thank You for the opportunity to discuss topics such as this on your
Sodalist Net.
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: In Republican Rome |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 03:49:13 EST |
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In a message dated 3/21/99 8:34:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
<a hr--------/post/novaroma?prot--------D=194166216056078116169218163036129208" >raz--------@--------</a> writ--------br>
<< Perhaps we
should all start posting pieces on various topics to the list. >>
The office of Praefecti.
Originally these were magistrates of the Republic
appointed at Rome with authority given by the praetor urbanus to
assist in official arrangements resulting from the grant of
"civitas sine suffragio" to a municipia.
The praefecti assisted the local authorities of the municipia; the
only senior judicial Roman authority. This authority could be
extended to provinces if necessary.
Later before the Social War, each Allied Legio (ala sociorum) had
six praefecti, three of whom were Roman officers. In Caesar's time
(late republic) the praefecti were made the commanders of cavalry
contingents.
Under the Principate, praefecti were regular officers of equestrian
order. They commanded the Praetorian Guard, vigiles (police/fire brigade), and
imperial fleet; the urban cohortes would be organized by the praefectus
urbi.
During Augustus-Caligua's reigns the Auxilia's ala and cohors was
commanded by a praefectus, who was a centurio promoted from the
ranks. Claudius kept the name, but changed this post to young men
just starting their equestrian careers.
The legiones in Egypt were commanded by a praefecti appointed by the
Emperor to assure loyalty instead of the normal legati, (being that Egypt was
the grain supply for City of Rome, and whoever controlled Egypt had better be
loyal to the Emperor). Septius Severus extend this raising Legiones Parthicae
I-Ill as his own formations and hand picking the commanders.
Gallienus carried it further, replacing senatorial chosen legati (one of the
few tasks remaing for them) with his own handpicked praefecti for all the
legiones.
Each legionary camp had its commandant, called praefectus
castroruin. Later this was changed to praefectus (castrorum) legionis, who
was a promoted centurio.
Q. Fabius
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| Subject: |
Re: In Republican Rome |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 03:55:48 -0500 (EST) |
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Excellent piece on the Praefecti. And a quick response!! Bravo,
Shabash!!!, Bravo Shabash!!!
Marcus Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
final appeal |
| From: |
MaNPaRoman@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 08:41:05 EST |
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Salvete,
I am working on thanks this week. I got nice paper and a special pen and am
ready to go. I still need addresses for Pallidius and F. Claudia. I think
thats it.
Crys
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| Subject: |
Re: SC&C #5: Well Come & Avete! |
| From: |
"Lucius" vergil@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:36:36 -0500 |
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Salvete, M Minucius P Ullerius et Alii
Venator;
We have had some discussion lately about Garum (fish sauce) and similar
recipes from Indo-China. I have two questions:
1. What is the recipe again for the production of the sauce.
To make Garum (fish sauce) Into containers that can be sealed make a layer
of dried aromatic herbs ie. dill, coriander, fennel, celery, mint oregano,
basil. Then put down a layer of fish using sardines or mackrel, if the fish
are small use whole otherwise cut into peices. On top of the fish make a
layer of salt (I use Mortons coarse kosher salt), repeat these steps until
the containers are full and then seal.
Set these containers in the sun for a week then mix daily for three weeks.
Strain through layers of cheese cloth and coffee filters into whatever
containers you want to use. It can be left longer but you can use it right
away. Don't be surprized if it takes a large amount of ingredents to make
what seems like a small amount of Garum.
2. Have you ever heard of the residue (see above) being analyzed as to
the contents of the original fish sauce?
No
Thank You for the opportunity to discuss topics such as this on your
Sodalist Net.
Marcus Minucius Audens
We will have fish sauce at Roman Days, see you there.
Valete, Lucius Equitius
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| Subject: |
Re: The Senate In Republican Rome |
| From: |
"RMerullo" rmerullo@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:02:45 -0500 |
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Salvete Marce Minuci et alii
Thanks for posting this. I found this interesting, particularly on the
subject of the Republican Roman Senate's composition.
From: <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045232113165042200148200112241225012177026038196249130152150" >jmath669642reng@--------</a> (James Mathe--------br>
MMA-The "senatus poulusque Romanus (SPQR) was the Senate and the People of
Rome. The Senate was a group of unelected men called Senators,
restricted to Patricians in the early republic, but later extended to
Plebians. In the middle and late Republic a man was admitted to the
Senate for life once he had ben elected by the "comitia" or "councilium"
to his first magistracy. He was expelled only if found gulty of
misconduct. There were originally 100 members, which increased to 300
and then to 600 in 80 BC, and then to 900 under Julius Caesar.
GMM-Nowhere is property mentioned above. I was under the (possibly
mistaken) impression that, in the late Republic, admission to the Senate was
automatic for men who --
1. owned a certain amount of land, some number of thousands of iugera,
2. were 30 years of age.
I do not believe that the set a) of all former and serving curule
magistrates was the same as set b) the Senate of late Republican Rome, but I
do think that a) was a subset of b). Does anyone have information to
confirm or refute that thought?
The single word "unelected" above supports my assertion. I do not think
that the composition of the Senate was so exclusive, even if a small
fraction of the population ever served in it. One either had the money or
did not.
---interesting info about Senate's functions and Republican politics
deleted---
Reference:
Handbook To Life In Ancient Rome
(Leslie and Roy Adkins)
Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
Quaestor...
Valete
Gaius Marius Merullus
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| Subject: |
Perennial Campaigning? |
| From: |
Gail and Thomas Gangale gangale@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:11:53 -0800 (PST) |
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Salvete.
"Maybe if people started campaigning early some of the vileness of the last
election's campaigns."
... Would start earlier?
Forgive me, my Praetor, I couldn't resist. But seriously, how much
enthusiasm is there for longer campaigns? Meanwhile, it seems to me that
the most straightforward way to discourage vile campaigning is to not elect
vile candidates.
"The fault lies not in our stars, dear Brutus, but in ourselves."
Valete.
Gangalius
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Tom and Gail Gangale
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=123166234108158153184218249036129208" >gangale@--------</a>
<a href="http://www.jps.net/gangale/homepage.htm" target="_top" >http://www.jps.net/gangale/homepage.htm</a>
Mars Society California
The Martian Time Web Site
The Martian Ministry of Culture
Bunny Hill (and Catsville Too)
The National Primary System
World GenWeb Calabria
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| Subject: |
The Lares |
| From: |
Razenna razenna@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:16:55 -0800 |
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The Lares were the household deities of the Romans. Their origin is noted in
some of our sources as being unclear, though much points to their having
originally having been ancestral of the protective sort. The word is also said
to be derived from the Etruscan lasa, but the lasae are usually shown as being
winged beings. Adkins and Adkins say that it is possible that the lares were
originally farmland gods (the Romans were originally farmers) possibly gods of
the dead who were later introduced into the household as lares familiares,
guardian spirits.. By the late republic the lares were the guardian spirits of
the house and the household and were worshipped at the hearth on the Kalends,
Nones and Idus of each month. It was the duty of the paterfamilias to ensure
the protection of the lar and to see tot eh maintenance of the lararium.
One can find many types of lares in the Religio of the ancients. The Lares
Compitales of the crossroads, the Lares Permarini of sailors, the Lares Publici
of the state, the Lares Vialis of the roadside shrines, etc..
Lares Publici Novae Romae, Quod bonum faustum felix fortunatum salutareque sit
Novae Romae universae.
C. Aelius Ericius.
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| Subject: |
Annals of Nova Roma |
| From: |
Gail and Thomas Gangale gangale@-------- |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:43:38 -0800 (PST) |
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Salvete.
I'd like to capture a few historical details for the Annals of Nova Roma:
When was the Senate formed, i.e., when were its original members named and
who were they?
When were the two Praetor Urbanis appointed?
When was Patricia Cassia appointed Quaestor?
When was Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus appointed Tribune Militaris?
When was Caius Aelius Ericius appointed Praetor of California Provincia?
When was Gaius Drusus Domitianus appointed Praetor of Great Lakes Provincia?
Was a Praetor of Mid-Atlantic Provincia appointed? If so, who and when?
Valete.
Gangalius
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Tom and Gail Gangale
<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=123166234108158153184218249036129208" >gangale@--------</a>
<a href="http://www.jps.net/gangale/homepage.htm" target="_top" >http://www.jps.net/gangale/homepage.htm</a>
Mars Society California
The Martian Time Web Site
The Martian Ministry of Culture
Bunny Hill (and Catsville Too)
The National Primary System
World GenWeb Calabria
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| Subject: |
Roman Forms Of Government |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@--------) |
| Date: |
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:47:43 -0500 (EST) |
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Since several citizens were interested in my last offering, I thought
perhaps while I was killing time waiting for my wife to return from
France (really miss her!!!!), I would put another offering onto the
Cyber airwaves:
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