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Re: Clothing questions |
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"Lucius" vergil@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 6 Jan 1999 01:21:59 -0500 |
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>Salve, T. Labienus Fortunatus
> I am finally getting serious about putting together some historical
clothing
>and military kit for myself. I was wondering if anyone could answer a few
>questions I had which would aid me in this endeavour.
> First, on civillian tunics, did the clavi run down both the front and
back,
>or just down the front?
Both.
> Second, does anyone know if there were any laws (circa the Gallic
conquest)
>or customs regarding how large and what colors (no purple, I realize) the
>clavi could be?
Are you refering to Senatorial, civilian ,or military Tunics?
> Also, were clavi sewn on or woven into the fabric?
Woven into the Fabric.
> Finally, is the leather portion of a lorica hamata's shoulder
reinforcement
>just a trim, or is it indicative of a layer of leather between the
reinforcing
>mail and the mail shirt underneath?
>
It is just trim.
>Valete and thank you in advance,
>T. Labienus Fortunatus
See this for more info.
<a href="http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/reenactments/index.html" target="_top" >http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/reenactments/index.html</a>
Vale, L Equitius
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| Subject: |
Re: Some general observations on 'net threats' (long) |
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| Date: |
Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:27:11 -0500 (EST) |
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> Though I must agree List members should THINK then WRITE, rather than the
> other way around.
> Vale
> Q Fabius
Salve, omnes!
This little phrase has been ponder by Man for Ages! No matter what media we are communicating through, whether it be via the phone, e-mail, or face-to-face, this problem will always plague us. Forgive and forget. I am sure that has been sometime when all of us have let are emotions get the best of us and not responded in the most diplomatic way.
Vale,
M. Iucundia Flavia
Propraetor SE USA Provincia
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| Subject: |
The 18th International Congress of Roman Frontier Studies |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:50:18 EST |
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The 18th International Congress of Roman Frontier Studies (aka
Limeskongress) will take place in Amman, Jordan between 2nd and 11th
September 2000. A web page containing further details (and contact
information for those who may have fallen off the mailing list at
some point) can now be found at:
<a href="http://www.liv.ac.uk/Archaeology_Classics/limes/" target="_top" >http://www.liv.ac.uk/Archaeology_Classics/limes/</a>
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| Subject: |
1999 UNB ANCIENT HISTORY COLLOQUIUM FINAL CALL FOR PAPERS |
| From: |
SFP55@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:53:40 EST |
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Salve!!
This is to announce the final call for papers for the 6th Annual
University of New Brunswick Ancient History Colloquium, scheduled to
take place in Fredericton, New Brunswick, on 20 March 1999. The
conference is entitled: GREEKS ON THE APPIAN WAY: PROGRESS, DECLINE OR
STAGNATION, and seeks to explore the nature of the Roman reception of
Greek ideas in a variety of areas including, but not limited to,
philosophy, the arts, medicine and law.
Those interested in presenting a paper should send abstracts to the
conference organizers by 31 JAN 99. The Keynote Speaker will be Prof.
Brad Inwood of the University of Toronto. For further information,
contact James S. M--------y (<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045059014003194091033082" >jsm@--------</a>) or John Geyssen (<a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=045185192200099233184158203119129208071" >jgeyssen@--------</a>),
Dept. of Classics and Ancient History, University of New Brunswick, P.O.
Box 4400, Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada E3B 5A3; tel. (506)
453-4763; fax (506)447-3072; or visit the department's web page at
<a href="http://www.unb.ca/web/arts/CLAS" target="_top" >http://www.unb.ca/web/arts/CLAS</a> .
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| Subject: |
Re: Clothing questions |
| From: |
Dexippus@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 6 Jan 1999 13:26:24 EST |
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In a message dated 99-01-05 23:52:44 EST, you write:
<< Second, does anyone know if there were any laws (circa the Gallic conquest)
or customs regarding how large and what colors (no purple, I realize) the
clavi could be? Also, were clavi sewn on or woven into the fabric? >>
I don't know what is historically accurate, but when I do finally get around
to putting together a tunic and toga, I plan to use a blue clavi sewn on both
sides. I like balance and I decided on blue to borrow from the SCA's Order of
the Blue Feather (an organization of Gay and Lesbian members of the SCA).
Just my 2 cents...I know it isn't the answer you're looking for.
--Dexippus
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| Subject: |
Re: oops, mistake! |
| From: |
missmoon missmoon@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:22:53 -0500 |
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<--------ef="/post/nov----------------otectID=246157057089235135169082190036" >SFP55@--------</--------; wrote:
>
> conference is entitled: GREEKS ON THE APPIAN WAY: PROGRESS, DECLINE OR
> STAGNATION,
I got all excited about this until I read it again. I thought it said
"GEEKS on the Appian Way." I could just picture Bill Gates in his
high-water toga, demonstrating Windows VII. And they STILL haven't
worked out the bugs.
-- Flavia Claudia
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| Subject: |
Re: New Religio Chat Room! |
| From: |
"Joseph Bloch" jkbloch@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:54:35 -0500 |
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Cool. Is there to be a regular chat schedule there? An agreed-upon time of
meeting? Sounds like an excellent idea.
Germanicus
-----Original Message-----
From: Pythia <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=200176234108158116015132190036129" >kingan@--------</a>
To: <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a> <a href="mailto:novaroma@--------" >novaroma@--------</a>
Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 8:23 PM
Subject: [novaroma] New Religio Chat Room!
>From: Pythia <a href="/post/novaroma?protectID=200176234108158116015132190036129" >kingan@--------</a>
>
>I have made a Religio Chat Room available at my website.
>Go to <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/ma/signoftheharp" target="_top" >http://www.angelfire.com/ma/signoftheharp</a>
>and go to the Religion link.
>
>Best, Pythia
>
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| Subject: |
Change in Moderators |
| From: |
Lucius Cornelius Sulla alexious@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 06 Jan 1999 19:51:12 -0800 |
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Salve Omnes,
Crys wanted me to let everyone know that her computer is crashing and
she will no longer be able to be online for the time being. She has
passed the mantle of moderator to the infamous back alley list to me.
LOL...So, if you are interested in becoming a subscriber to the back
alley list, please E-mail me. I will be happy to subscribe you to it!
Let the flood gates loose, as Dex would say! :)
Vale,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla,
Praetor Urbanis
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| Subject: |
Roman Warefare Info Needed |
| From: |
"Juan Correa" gehn@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:28:11 -0800 |
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Ah, school, those fine institutions of Academia. Bah! Schools these days...
Anyway, the point of this email is not ranting about school.
I am a sophomore in high school. We have done a bit of mythology and ancient
history. Little or nothing has been mentioned of Rome up to this point. Now
we are studying warfare, from Stone Age to modern times. We have a week to
create a presentation to present to the class. I specifically requested to
be allowed to present the age of metals, which is the bronze and Iron Age.
Sure enough I got my requested time period. Unfortunately when I went over
the information it was all related to Greece, not a word of Roma! In this
whole unit there is not a word relating to Roma! How could they forget Rome?
The civilization that conquered all of Europe, Egypt, and more! I expressed
my feelings about this lousy assignment to the teacher. I requested that
Rome share the spotlight along with Greece. Fortunately he agreed, to let me
do so (I guess being an A student yields some influence.)
Anyway, to cut to the chase, I would like your help in preaching (I mean
presenting! :D) about the superiority of the Roman military. All I am asking
for is links to websites that you recommend that have good military
information. Basically that's it, of course if someone wants to take the
time to type and share their personal knowledge, that would be greatly
appreciated, although I don't expect many of you to do that, so don't think
this is some sort of guilt trap.
Lucius Fannius
Self appointed Pro-Rome lecturer.
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| Subject: |
Re: Clothing questions |
| From: |
SDmtwi@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:33:01 EST |
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Salve, L. Equitius.
Thank you very much for responding to my questions.
> Are you refering to Senatorial, civilian ,or military Tunics?
As I said, a civillian tunic. From what I've seen, military tunics didn't
have clavi. And, I'm neither a senator nor a member of the Ordo Equester.
> See this for more info.
> <a href="http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/reenactments/index.html" target="_top" >http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/reenactments/index.html</a>
Actually, I've read everything there, probably more than once. I've also
crawled over upwards of a dozen reenactment web pages and abused three books
almost to death. I've only found one source that actually shows the back of a
hamata (The Roman Legions Recreated in Colour Photographs, by Daniel
Peterson), and the Nova Roma and Legio XX pages are the only ones I've found
that even begin to talk about male fashion choices like clavi.
Vale,
T. Labienus Fortunatus
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| Subject: |
ego redite |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 06 Jan 1999 22:49:17 -0600 |
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Salus et Fortuna Omnes, Salvete!
Having gone through the numerous post digests (being Asatru, I counted
1,2,3, many...) from the past week and a half, I breathe a sigh of
relief. The New City is still here.
My congratulations to all for surviving to a new birthday anniversary,
taking office, service in office the first year, ad infinitum...
I'm sad to see Crystal needed a break, glad the Marco. v. Fann. item
seems resolved, thinking of a new 'Eagle' article (add "Surtur's Blood"
to the backlog if you like F. Claudia), looking to complete the "Mead
Manuel," will submit my Oath of Office -Officially-, have an inquiry out
to a couple of contacts to find a U.S. distributor of currently made
Falernian wine, and so on...
Well Come to new Cives and 'Lurkers'...
May All the Holy Ones Bless Each and Everyone of You in this New Year!!!
Valete - Venator
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| Subject: |
Quaestorship: Acceptance and Oath - Formal |
| From: |
Megas-Robinson amgunn@-------- |
| Date: |
Wed, 06 Jan 1999 23:45:54 -0600 |
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On this the 5th day after the Kalends of Ianuarius, MMDCI AUC,
Being the 312th Day of the New City -
Does Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, Civis et Paterfamilias -
Present Greetings and Salutations unto the People and Senate of Nova
Roma.
Stenuus Salus et Bona Fortuna Omnes, Salvete!
I do hereby, formally, accept the Will of the People of Nova Rome in
Their election of me as a Quaestor for the coming calender year, known
as the 1999th of the Common Era.
I should like to present my Oath of Office to the People and Senate of
Nova Rome, in the sight of All the Holy Ones of Rome, and of the North.
- I, Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold
the Honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the best interests of the
People and the Senate of Nova Roma.
- As a Magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, swear
to do Honor to the Gods and Goddesses of Roma in my Public Dealings, and
to pursue the Roman Virtues in my Public and Private Life.
- I, Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, further swear to fulfill the
Obligations and Responsibilities of the Office of Quaestor to the best
of my abilities.
- On my Honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the Presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman People, and by Their Will and Favor, do
I accept the Position of Quaestor and All the Rights, Privelages,
Obligations and Responsibilities attendant thereto.
Additionally, from mine own conscience and thoughts:
- I, Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, do hereby solemnly swear to uphold
the Integrity of Nova Roma, Her Constitutions and Institutions.
- As a Magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, shall
Give Honor and Respect to the Concepts of Public Religio and Private
Conscience.
- I, Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, shall never cause harm, nor by
inaction allow harm, to Any Citizen in regards to Personal Belief, nor
harm to Nova Roma Herself.
In Service to the People, Senate and Constitution of Nova Roma,
ego sum - Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator, Civis, Paterfamlias et Quaestor
This I confirm - Piparskegg UllRsson Veithmadhur, UllRsgothi and Asaman
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